The majority of RPGs and RPG sales are turn-based, especially when mobile is included.

Because no one wants to play Action RPGs via a touch based screen on a phone.

Meanwhile turn based usually works out really well for rpgs, when controlls are limited.

So as long as smart phones are here, and people get rpgs on them, thats probably not gonna change.

I love both those series.... once again Im amazed by how much opinions can vary on games.

Same goes for me, I feel very differntly about them than you do though.

Cmon man, that is nonsense. Turn based allows you to connect with your whole party. It's not an excuse for technical limitations, it's a design tool and a good one. In FFXV your party members are mostly alot of repeated voice clips that follow you around, but unless you watched the anime they are just a bunch of monkeys you don't care very much about. You don't get to play as them. That is the biggest strength of turn based. You play as the party and not just the one character. That makes the narrative and events that much more powerful.

That and the more strategic gameplay ofc.

Theres lots of cheap ones aswell ofc, because it is a formula that can be cheapily used. I don't get convinced easily by those static 2D turn based games either, especially the ones where you can't see your party members. You don't have to enjoy all kinds of turn based to like some turn based just like you don't have to enjoy every actionRPG to be able to enjoy some ARPG's. Theres good ones and theres bad ones.

Huh.Its usually FF that is called the JRPG king.But anyways.Graphics arent criticized simply because the game is in the 3DS.I personally find it stupid to say that the graphics sucks because they arent of PS4 level.Unless its completely terrible, you compare to other 3DS games, or what the 3DS is capable of.Story on the other hand, Ill agree that is lackluster.One of the reasons that i dont play Pokemon anymore.But then again, people says that Sumo story/narrative is actually decent, but, thats certainly something they need to work on.

But people go easier on Pokemon because it does flawlessly on what it does.People are going harder on FF (especially FFXV at the moment)simply because the game is:A)Not nearly as good as old games and,B) have distancied too far from franchise stamples, such as gameplay and overall game theme(high fantasy).It dosent mean the game is not good, is simply means people expected more out of it.

I think that is more an Eastern to Western shift in the market.  I love Japanese games, but as graphical show pieces they went from dominating consoles in the 90s, to trailing in 00s, and in 10s you get the rare game (FInal Fantasy, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid) that sells well globally allowing them to compete with the budgets of major western titles.

Speicifcally for JRPGs the challenge is the scale of these games on SNES/PS1 was unparalleled and each new generation has meant a massive increase in budget to accomplish the same thing.  Having towns, over worlds, and dialog scene use to be sprites so nowhere near the detail one would demand now.  I can imagine FInal Fantasy VI, just the opera scene alone, would be a huge expense to replicate properly on a PS4 or similar console.

Yes, I agree. They're not dead. However, we don't have many titles as Pokemon out there any more.

Interesting idea. But don't you think that Turn Based later on became somehow a genre in itself?

I agree with you, but many titles you and others listed in this thread aren't mainstream.

In the end, the genre is not dead but it's having a hard time being in the mainstream scene.

I agree that games like XC are turn based.

I get that usually you have your turn and the foe his turn and one has to wait for the other's move, but still I don't think the"turn based" idea should be that strict. In games like XC you don't move freely, you've got to wait for your turn base on move's loading times. It's somehow acts like "turn based".