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Peh said:

Eh, they are kind of dead for me. I grew up with them, but nowadays, they are the lazy excuse of gameplay features. Especially those where you don't even see your teammates like Etrian Odyssey or Shin Megami Tensei. Those are the epitome of lazy visuals and fighting modes. I feel asleep during a battle with a monster.

I love both those series.... once again Im amazed by how much opinions can vary on games.

Same goes for me, I feel very differntly about them than you do though.