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Turkish on 19 November 2016

Microsoft put up a much better marketing campaign, the Xbone S looks fresh, it also has a 4k bluray drive which is very important. They went from a unrecognizable black behemoth to a easily recognizable white console.

PS4 Slim is very meh, it doesn't look that slim compared to the original, it's also very ugly. It doesn't have charm as the original, just a random black plastic thing.

They should have dropped the PS4 Slim when the gains are this small and rather have put all their efforts into making the Pro as good as possible. The Pro could've used it, seeing all the prolems.



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Raven on 19 November 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Slade6alpha said:

No, I'm talking this year. Not 2017. What exactly has PS released this year? Uncharted 4 ("same old franchise over and over again" times 4). What's lazy continuing to delays games, show off games at E3 which aren't going to release ANYTIME soon. Hell, Last Guardian is FINALLY releasing. Congrats. After how many years? They've gone complacent. Their focus is on VR. Now that's what I call lazy. 

At least MS released some new IPs, fixed a ton of their reception, and have given the people what they asked for in Backwards compatibility. They aren't the market leaders, and they've responded in reaction to that, like Carl said, they deserve it. 

I'd say this cuts things a little too far, particularly when it ignores another franchise with a number "4" after it.

How is it too far to mention if people are acting as if it's only the other side releasing sequels of established franchises exactly?



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 19 November 2016
WoodenPints said:
Captain_Yuri said:
If the x1 outsells ps4 in November, that is when I will be like wowz since sony launched the ps4 pro

I don't really think it even has to outsell the PS4 in November to be sucessful it's more so that the PS4 needs to show big numbers. With the Pro launching and all the pre-orders the PS4 has suposed to of lost this past 9 weeks due to people waiting for the Pro Sony really should be expecting a 500k+ minimum win over Xbox in November and if Xbox can stay within 300k of the PS4 sales I'd class it as an indirect win for the green team.

Thats true. Within 300k competing against 2 skus combined would also be pretty awesome



                  

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NSS7 on 19 November 2016

XOne only outsell PS4 in US, UK and Australia where gap between both console are small. Some PS4 potential buyer waiting for PS4 Pro. Even there is just 20% of them that is already enough to beat PS4. Lower Xbox price might help too. We will see if in November and December if this theory is right or not.



celador on 19 November 2016
Slade6alpha said:
celador said:

Last Guardian is out next month, Gravity Rush 2 January, Horizon February.

they should have had something else for the holidays, but at least they still release games all year round. MS releasing everything at once doesn't make them less lazy for the first 9 months of every year. Even more so considering what MS do release is the same old franchises over and over again. Now that is lazy

No, I'm talking this year. Not 2017. What exactly has PS released this year? Uncharted 4 ("same old franchise over and over again" times 4). What's lazy continuing to delays games, show off games at E3 which aren't going to release ANYTIME soon. Hell, Last Guardian is FINALLY releasing. Congrats. After how many years? They've gone complacent. Their focus is on VR. Now that's what I call lazy. 

At least MS released some new IPs, fixed a ton of their reception, and have given the people what they asked for in Backwards compatibility. They aren't the market leaders, and they've responded in reaction to that, like Carl said, they deserve it. 

New IPs that they paid other people to make, because MS Studios can make fuck all themselves aside the same old rehashes . New IPS that were underwhelming critically and even more so commercially. Sony's focus is not on VR, it's on the whole Playstation ecosystem, sounds like your grasping at straws there. 

And why are delays bad if there are plenty of other games on the system? Oh, and how's Crackdown 3 doing? Sony should definitely stop announcing games too early, but let's not pretend MS don't do it either.  

At least I know that, even if they take a while, at next E3 Sony will have new games and new IPs to show. You'll be watching trailers for Halo 6 and Forza 6. Because MS is lazy and complacent. And they aren't winning anything, even with everything on their side they still lose worldwide. Sad!



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Nogamez on 19 November 2016

As far as I know ps4 has out sold xbox one pretty much every single week. Why do you think Xbox one is now outselling ps4? 3ds is probably outselling xbox one most weeks



Spade on 19 November 2016
celador said:
Slade6alpha said:

No, I'm talking this year. Not 2017. What exactly has PS released this year? Uncharted 4 ("same old franchise over and over again" times 4). What's lazy continuing to delays games, show off games at E3 which aren't going to release ANYTIME soon. Hell, Last Guardian is FINALLY releasing. Congrats. After how many years? They've gone complacent. Their focus is on VR. Now that's what I call lazy. 

At least MS released some new IPs, fixed a ton of their reception, and have given the people what they asked for in Backwards compatibility. They aren't the market leaders, and they've responded in reaction to that, like Carl said, they deserve it. 

New IPs that they paid other people to make, because MS Studios can make fuck all themselves aside the same old rehashes . New IPS that were underwhelming critically and even more so commercially. Sony's focus is not on VR, it's on the whole Playstation ecosystem, sounds like your grasping at straws there. 

And why are delays bad if there are plenty of other games on the system? Oh, and how's Crackdown 3 doing? Sony should definitely stop announcing games too early, but let's not pretend MS don't do it either.  

At least I know that, even if they take a while, at next E3 Sony will have new games and new IPs to show. You'll be watching trailers for Halo 6 and Forza 6. Because MS is lazy and complacent. And they aren't winning anything, even with everything on their side they still lose worldwide. Sad!

Glad that came out. Thanks  

Cause Sony doesn't have 3rd party exclusives at all, nope only MS. This tired narative you continue to spew is old Celador. Again what has Sony released this year? You failed to mention. I never said MS didn't announce games early both do, but you only throw shade at one side to push this inconsistent narrative of yours that only MS has "tired old sequels" when the only big exclusive I'm remembering is Uncharted 4. I repeat 4. Not exactly a new exclusive/new Ip is it? 

Yes new IPs and new games (like this year) that won't release ANY time soon at next years E3 (just like Sony's E3 this past year). And cool, I'm glad you're enjoying playing sales, you can play that on your PS4 Pro at 6 frames higher and native 4K. Fun  



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celador on 19 November 2016
Slade6alpha said:
celador said:

New IPs that they paid other people to make, because MS Studios can make fuck all themselves aside the same old rehashes . New IPS that were underwhelming critically and even more so commercially. Sony's focus is not on VR, it's on the whole Playstation ecosystem, sounds like your grasping at straws there. 

And why are delays bad if there are plenty of other games on the system? Oh, and how's Crackdown 3 doing? Sony should definitely stop announcing games too early, but let's not pretend MS don't do it either.  

At least I know that, even if they take a while, at next E3 Sony will have new games and new IPs to show. You'll be watching trailers for Halo 6 and Forza 6. Because MS is lazy and complacent. And they aren't winning anything, even with everything on their side they still lose worldwide. Sad!

Glad that came out. Thanks  

Cause Sony doesn't have 3rd party exclusives at all, nope only MS. This tired narative you continue to spew is old Celador. Again what has Sony released this year? You failed to mention. I never said MS didn't announce games early both do, but you only throw shade at one side to push this inconsistent narrative of yours that only MS has "tired old sequels" when the only big exclusive I'm remembering is Uncharted 4. I repeat 4. Not exactly a new exclusive/new Ip is it? 

Yes new IPs and new games (like this year) that won't release ANY time soon at next years E3 (just like Sony's E3 this past year). And cool, I'm glad you're enjoying playing sales, you can play that on your PS4 Pro at 6 frames higher and native 4K. Fun  

This thread is about sales, so bringing them up isn't strange. Maybe it just hurts because Xbox is being curbstomped?

Wasn't a great year for PS4 either, never said it was. Had Ratchet & Clank (which SOny actually own) and Street Fighter V. Pretty meh. But the future releases coming to PS4 embarrass MS. Halo and Forza 6. I repeat, fucking 6!!



d21lewis on 19 November 2016
Radek said:
d21lewis said:
A lot of the sales probably come from "double dipping". I own TWO Xbox One consoles but I kinda want an S. The "Upscale everything"feature is tempting.

Isn't that upscaler the same upscaler your 4K TV does anyway? UHD Blu-Ray I can understand, but upscaler? 

I'm not that proficient in the art of resolution but I think if there's 4k content and a 4k TV, it looks better than just having a TV upscale by itself.



KLAMarine on 19 November 2016
Intrinsic said:
KLAMarine said:

First it was the debacle that was No Man's Sky which Sony put its marketing behind. Then it was Sony's restrictive modding policy with regards to Bethesda's Fallout 4 and Skyrim games. Microsoft has been less restrictive in that regard. Then the PS4Pro not being able to play 4K Blurays which the XB1S can, Microsoft made sure to emphasize. Also, the PS4Pro being weaker specs-wise than the upcoming Scorpio, Microsoft doing a better job of implementing backwards compatibility, and even Microsoft claiming their gaming network is the better one (not sure how true that is).

Also, if memory serves (no pun intended), external storage on the PS4 and PS4 Pro is a hassle compared to the X1.

Kinda hard to argue with subjectivity. 

No mans sky is not a knock on Sony. I don't know why you would associate that with Sony as a failure. ESPECIALLY being that is was also released on PC.

Sony did a great deal for NMS, most of which was providing the title a very large platform for promotion only for the title to then release to overwhelmingly negative reception. The debacle makes me question if any sort of quality control was exercised by Sony prior to its release on its console. One would think Sony would have considering how much they promoted NMS but apparently not since the game crashes on the PS4. I've seen it for myself secondhand.

Could it be Sony saw the hype and knew this game could move PS4s, game quality be damned? I'd hate to think so.

Intrinsic said:

Restricting modding and BC, I doubt those things carry the kinda weight you are suggesting they do. Evident in when you look at games sales. Didn't fallout sell better on the PS4? Has the 3yrs of BC support worked wonders for MS? And should I start listing out features the PS4 has that MS doesmt? I rather not, cause there are all subjective. They may be important to you, but in the grand scheme of things they don't equate to much. 

Restricting modding and BC, I doubt those things carry the kinda weight you are suggesting they do. Evident in when you look at games sales. Didn't fallout sell better on the PS4? Has the 3yrs of BC support worked wonders for MS? And should I start listing out features the PS4 has that MS doesmt? I rather not, cause there are all subjective. They may be important to you, but in the grand scheme of things they don't equate to much. 

PS4 and 4k Blu-ray, again, that's not something that in the grand scheme of things matter. aimless you really believe that the reason the XB1 is selling better is because people want to buy 4k Blu-rays to watch. You should also out stock into marketing. MS will do well to scream whatever differentiating feature they have to the rooftops. They are almost required to do so. Doesn't mean it's relevant.

These things don't single-handedly determine sales trends of course but they do one thing that needed to happen and that's improve Microsoft's and XBox's image and at times hurt PlayStation's. With an improved image, XBox marketing may then prove more effective in the future.

We can see evidence of it in this thread even: users giving XBox props for improving itself.

Intrinsic said:

And how can you possibly talk about PS4pros weaker specs to the scorpio as a knock? Then forget that the Pro is out now and we have not even seen what the scorpio looks like. If it's coming a year later, shouldnt it be more powerful?

Helps improve XBox's image by declaring it the brand that will be more powerful in the end. And just like there are people who can't wait for the Scorpio and pick up a Pro, there are also people who are willing to wait for the Scorpio in case the Scorpio ends up being the better machine.

Intrinsic said:

Have you considered how many PlayStation console will be in the market by the time the scorpio is released? 

What do you think the devs will think?

They'll probably hope developing for both platforms is simple enough. Yes there will be more PlayStations out in the wild by the time the Scorpio releases but there will be more XBoxes out too.

Intrinsic said:

And external storage, again, subjective. It would no doubt be a great feature to have. But you can easily upgrade you internal HDD on the PS4. I doubt anyones reason for not buying a PS4 would be because it doesn't support external HDD.

The way it was described in a previous thread by user d21lewis ( http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=222079&page=1 ) certainly made it sound like a pain, comparatively speaking. These inconveniences just do more of what I described previously: engender threads and discussions that hurt PlayStation's image and improve XBox's.

Intrinsic said:

Truth be told, all you have just said is subjective. You haven't pointed out a clear significant reason why anyone would choose the XB1s over the PS4 from the things you have mentioned.

There's usually never a single reason.

Intrinsic said:

Or better out, how anything you have mentioned equates to turning the tide. 

Turning the tide? What are you talking about?