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What was the most exciting Playstation era?

Playstation 1 87 23.77%
 
Playstation 2 154 42.08%
 
Playstation 3 47 12.84%
 
I think Playstation 4 wil... 78 21.31%
 
Total:366

We're definitely seeing things differently because I fully disagree.

If you look at each of Sony's gen, their first party games have changed/evolved while continuing with some of the same franchises.

PS1: Spyro, Crash, GT, etc..
PS2: GoW, Ico, SotC, Dark Cloud, Jak & Daxter, Sly, Killzone, Socom etc..
PS3: Uncharted, TLoU, Resistance, Infamous, Heavy Rain etc..
PS4: The Order, Until Dawn, Drive Club etc.. (gen's not over so more to come)

Whether you like some of those games are not it's not dull, it's diverse.

Out of the big 3, I'd say Nintendo would be the most "dull" as every Nintendo gen the majority you get is something Mario/Zelda/Smash/Kart/Party/Donkey Kong/Yoshi/Kirby.. and a bunch of other first party spin offs that uses the same group of mascots. Splatoon was definitely a breath of fresh air.

I'd use the word "dull" for something that's more predictable but one of the reasons many choose a Playstation console is because their library is not dull, first & third party games.



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Miss the old good days of ps1, when games were meant to have a great time while playing and not to look "perfect" on the display... Ape Escape, Crash, Spyro. Even the games with licensed characters were great: Tom and Jerry in the trap house, sheep raider, monster rancher. Board games like Game of Life. Where these games gone?

 Now all I see is: Developers slapping bland characters in recycled and overused gameplay mechanics (make some aesthetics changes ofc), with a cliché story and many skippable cutscenes, make the visuals look realistic, the world big (doesn't matter if its an uninspiring scenario) and you got everyone worshipping your game.

TLG is the only game from the entire retail library of ps4 (not even worth mention X1) that got my attention.

Edit: Actually Overwatch is a great game, really innovated the FPS scenario, but that's not saying much unfortunately. And there is South Park. So I think that is it. 3 games



 

 

We reap what we sow

ReimTime said:

TLDR: Third parties began to dominate the market, similar games became popular, the strive for realism has taken precedence

This is an opinion piece brought to you by a PS fan. I was spurred into writing this by reading this chain of posts on another thread, which I am inclined to agree with. Here I will explain why I believe Playstation has become "dull", in contrast to its earliest days as a console brand.

First of all we have to acknowledge that nostalgia is the primary drive for this feeling. With that out of the way, here is a further argument:

Third party developers have really taken off over the past ten years - which isn't a bad thing, but worth noting. Since 3rd parties can develop for any console, each console can therefore cater to similar markets - and subsequently consoles lose points of distinction. Anyone can look at the Chartz and see how the patterns in software popularity shifted from PS1 to PS4 - AKA first party dominant to third party dominant (this is something I probably say about once a week lol). I argue one reason why PlayStation seems so shallow and dull is because it isn't first party dominant anymore. Of course, this is in combination with the idea that third party developers and publishers thrive on making very similar games.

The most popular games of the seventh and eight generation share so many elements and mechanics that they blend together. If I could create the most average game for the 7th and 8th generation, I would create an action/shooter with RPG elements and some aspect of exploration and item collecting, and some sort of online multiplayer mode. I could buy this game on any system. It would be impossible for my game's protagonist to be a console mascot - more likely to be the face of the franchise. My protagonist would share so many character traits with other popular franchise protagonists that you could swear they were related. It would be published by Activision or Take 2 or EA or Ubisoft.

Let's compare that with the Playstation 1's most popular offerings. Gran Turismo games were great racing simulators. Metal Gear Solid was stealthy and cinematic and made us feel like we were living in a James Bond type movie. Final Fantasy games were - well, fantasy role-playing games with a turn-based battle system. Tekken games were good, simplistic arcade fighters. Crash Bandicoot and Spyro were colorful and charming platformers with a variety of environmental level designs. Resident Evil was a good survival horror that didn't rely heavily on action elements. Tomb Raider was a fun 3d action game. THPS was a new and addicting arcade-type skateboarding game. Etc. Most were published by SCE.

The above games are easily distinguishable from one another. Sure they shared elements with each other, but it is obvious they did not try to create a game using the same proven formula. Male and female protagonists/characters, where applicable, were about equally represented. Genres encompassed: more than 5. Franchises listed with shooter elements? Well, 3 had guns I guess. How many of these games could you play on Nintendo or PC? Few, if any. Playstation was an exclusive home of diversity. More than that, it was a home for fantastical diversity. As our hardware has grown more powerful, and games continue to strive for increased realism as a result, we don't need to suspend our disbelief in order to find our own place in a game world. It's more about our own participation and player agency than it is about being an omniscient spectator. You have a lot more room to play with as a developer if you aren't realying on realism.

The above is an observation that can be taken at face value. If I could take the liberty of making on small plea, however: I want to see more fantastical games with this new hardware we have. Pretty please! At any rate......

We do still have some variety on Playstation. Perhaps not as noticeable as it was, but it does exist; although games too far outside the norm are rarely commerically or critically succesful; perhaps even ignored (we call these games: Indies LOL). Remember last year, about this time, voting for games which we considered to be 7th generation's classics? It wasn't that 7th generation was dull for Playstation - but that many of the games we enjoyed on Playstation shared similar mechanics and story elements. Same on the top Metacritic charts, and the top VGChartz. They are critical and commercial success stories - creating a message from gamers that clearly reads: "THESE ARE THE GAMES WE WANT TO PLAY NOW!" Is that a bad thing? Well, not really. We enjoyed them, didn't we?

That being said, will we ever get back back to "glory days" of Playstation content, with more variety in games? I think we will, yes. To put it all into one sentence: our interests as a population have shifted, and the market has responded. What's stopping that from happening again? Be honest with yourself. If you want variety, then BUY VARIETY when you see it. We can't say that we are worse off now than we were before. We can only say that Playstation gaming is a bit more dull now - and if it isn't because we are older and feeling nostalgic, then it is because we don't widely accept variety in games anymore. Perhaps with Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Death Stranding, Gran Turismo, Days Gone, Tekken, The Last Guardian, Dreams, Detroit and Horizon, we will be satisfied.

Or, maybe not. Maybe we should realize that we won't see content diversity exactly like the early days of Playstation anymore. And maybe, that's ok.

What do you think? Has Playstation become dull since the days of PS1 and PS2? Is there anything else you'd like to point out, or disagree with? I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.

Thanks for reading.

Yeah but you never explained why you complain about Playstation in particular though? Sounds to me you're whining about the current industry and 3rd parties rather than Playstation. Tomb Raider is not Sony, Tekken isn't nor MGS or Resident Evil. They lost the rights to Spyro and Crash but Sony immediately made not 2 but 3 new platformers Jak, Ratchet and Sly. 2 of which returned on PS3.

Sony still makes and funds the most diverse line-up of games, always has been. Not all of them are sales successes(Tearaway) or get critical acclaim (The Tomorrow Children). Don't forget that they continued even though Sony had a rough time with the PS3 and their financial situation last gen.

They also make more new IPs than MS and Nintendo.

Tastes change just like in the movie industry.



What doesn't help the PS4 is the fact that it's pretty much just more of the same with "prettier" graphics.  Sony didn't bring anything new to the table.  On top of the huge lack of 1st party/PS4 exclusive games is the fact that most of the library is available on PC for less money, running at higher resolutions and higher frame rates(for most pc gamers).  The PS4 is simply a under powered gaming pc in a plastic shell.  The only reason to buy one is for the few exclusives that are worth playing.  In the end, console are little more than "toys".  It's your choice if you want to have to stay teathered to your TV with it or buy one that you can take anywhere with you.



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Ariakon said:

If that is how you define dull, then the entire industry is suffering from it, not just Playstation. AAA games take years to create and cost enough to bankrupt entire companies if they don't sell well, which understandably leads to fewer companies willing to take risks with their games, and also leads to fewer releases. You yourself noted what companies can take the chance to create something that differs from the norm - the indie companies, and their releases make for a ton of variety, if sometimes a little less quality, due to their lack of funds. 

DING DING DING DING DING, but saying the whole industry is dull doesn't give you as many clicks as saying Playstation or any other console in particular does.



think-man said:
Ratchet and Clank, The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2 look pretty realistic to me aswell ;)
I had GR for the Vita and to this day simply can't understand the appeal to the game.  It definitely wasn't for me.


Stop hating and start playing.

BuckStud said:
think-man said:
Ratchet and Clank, The Last Guardian and Gravity Rush 2 look pretty realistic to me aswell ;)
I had GR for the Vita and to this day simply can't understand the appeal to the game.  It definitely wasn't for me.

That wasn't the point of my comment.



I always found dull.



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