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Forums - Politics - Day 1 after Trump wins: Racism comes back stronger...

Lawlight on 10 November 2016
bunchanumbers said:
Slimebeast said:
I can imagine that many of the relatively few real racists in America felt sort of a confidence boost by Trump's victory, and some of them might even believe we're going into a new era where display of open racism becomes more acceptable. So what we might see here is how nasty people dare to express racist sentiments more openly than they dared to show before the election.

But we have to remember that this isn't an established fact. The examples in the twitter thread (or whatever it is) are circumstancial and might, or might not, reflect a real life trend. Let's not draw conclusions before we know the facts.

But even if it is an actual increase in racism expression, it might very well be temporary. I believe that things will go back to normal within a few days.

Generally speaking there aren't many racists in the West and racism is a relatively limited phenomenon. It's blown out of proportions and used as a tool against the majority population by people with an agenda.

Are you a minority? Because if you are not then you will realize that racism is part of your everyday life. That white lady that moves to the other side of the street instead of the side you are on. The looks of concern when you go into their neighborhoods. An older lady once asked a co worker whether or not it was legal for me to be there instead of on the reservation.

White folks have asked me when was the last time I made a rain dance. I've been called chief, brave, buffalo rider, prairie n*****, was asked where my tipi was, told to lay off the fire water, and one time a girl just straight up walked up to me and gave me a indian 'how' salute.

I live it every day. I'm glad you live in a racism free world. Some day I hope to live in one too.

I'm a minority and I almost never get exposed to racism. Maybe it's different in your country.



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captain carot on 10 November 2016

I'm pretty sure there's racism to some degree everywhere. There is some racism here in Germany, very few in the west, way more in the east. Basically the federal states with the fewest immigrants are the ones with the most racists.

Now, some people aren't that racist. Others are extremely racist. And fundamentalists always are dangerous. Racist fundamentalists should have told you that history lesson as much as religious or every other kind of fundamentalist.
People that are a bit racist might be convinced by one direction or the other.



Teeqoz on 10 November 2016
LivingMetal said:
As long as the human race exist, you will have some form of racism. Ignore and move forward.

And because as long as we use cars, we will have traffic accidents so we should just not care about traffic rules and improving vehicle safety as well?



Louie_86 on 10 November 2016
LivingMetal said:
Jpcc86 said:

Can't agree. I think Obama did a solid job bringing in minorities to the front and gave voice to groups that werent heard. Specially the LGBT+ community. 
I was being sarcastic anyway, I don't expect Trump to unify anything, his entire campaing was very divisive. 

If Trump should start with minorities as YOU said, then Obama should start with whites.  But as the evidence shows, there are whites who are still racist.  Again, not calling out Obama.  I have respect for the man.

Obama didnt antagonize whites, so I don't think your comparison equates to what I said -which wasnt "Trump should start with minorities"- But whatever, that's besides the point of this thread. 



bunchanumbers on 10 November 2016
Lawlight said:
bunchanumbers said:

Are you a minority? Because if you are not then you will realize that racism is part of your everyday life. That white lady that moves to the other side of the street instead of the side you are on. The looks of concern when you go into their neighborhoods. An older lady once asked a co worker whether or not it was legal for me to be there instead of on the reservation.

White folks have asked me when was the last time I made a rain dance. I've been called chief, brave, buffalo rider, prairie n*****, was asked where my tipi was, told to lay off the fire water, and one time a girl just straight up walked up to me and gave me a indian 'how' salute.

I live it every day. I'm glad you live in a racism free world. Some day I hope to live in one too.

I'm a minority and I almost never get exposed to racism. Maybe it's different in your country.

You're lucky. I get treated like a museum exhibit on the polite days. I told you about some of the bad days.



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LivingMetal on 10 November 2016
Jpcc86 said:
LivingMetal said:

If Trump should start with minorities as YOU said, then Obama should start with whites.  But as the evidence shows, there are whites who are still racist.  Again, not calling out Obama.  I have respect for the man.

Obama didnt antagonize whites, so I don't think your comparison equates to what I said -which wasnt "Trump should start with minorities"- But whatever, that's besides the point of this thread. 

Overall, I agree.  But my comparison was based on YOUR logic that YOU brought up.  Besides, you did say you were being sarcastic so let's leave out any unwarranted justifications.  



LivingMetal on 10 November 2016
Teeqoz said:
LivingMetal said:
As long as the human race exist, you will have some form of racism. Ignore and move forward.

And because as long as we use cars, we will have traffic accidents so we should just not care about traffic rules and improving vehicle safety as well?

Read my previous post that followed the one you quote for context.



Slimebeast on 10 November 2016
Shadow1980 said:
Slimebeast said:
I can imagine that many of the relatively few real racists in America felt sort of a confidence boost by Trump's victory, and some of them might even believe we're going into a new era where display of open racism becomes more acceptable. So what we might see here is how nasty people dare to express racist sentiments more openly than they dared to show before the election.

"Relatively few?" You live in Sweden, dude. Move down here to South Carolina for a few months and spend some time around the Confederate flag-waving good ol' boys and you'll be singing a different tune. This shit has been around forever. Parents teach it to their children, and they teach it to their children. I know white people who use the n-word with reckless abandon around here. MLK Day and Black History Month get called "National N***er Day/Month." People of all generations, from my own grandmother to a friend of mine's sister have proclaimed their disapproval of interracial marriage. My stepfather absolutely despises Latinos. A lot of white people around here think all Muslims are terrorists. I'm not exaggerating here. These people are fucking racists. Most of them are non-violent and keep it to themselves, and may even be respectful to non-whites, but behind closed doors around other whites, they let their true colors shine. The spirit of slavery, Know-nothing-ism, and Jim Crow never died.

True, I live in Sweden so it becomes a little bit harder for me to evaluate things that go on over there.

But here in Sweden, there are extremely few racists in this country and yet the media, public education and politicans constantly claim that racism is a huge problem. So it's not unreasonable to assume it's the same over there.

It's just hard for me to evaluate claims like that, "parents teach it to their children", "n-word is used with reckless abandon". Yeah, but in concrete terms, and this is obviously impossible for you to answer, how many are there? And how many would be considered many? Because it's subjective to every individual when something is considered "many", or "common", or is seen as a "problem".

And then on top of this we have the factor of rhetorics. You could have a valid complaint about something, but you choose to express it in racist terms. "freaking hooknosed J*w bankers are enslaving people". If we pretend for a moment that it's true that there exist a lot of je*ish bankers who screw their customers, would that statement really be racist?

It's complicated.



Lonely_Dolphin on 10 November 2016
Scoobes said:
Einsam_Delphin said:
Did Trump tell people to go out and be even stupider than normal? If not then this isn't his fault, yet people are making it out like it is. This is only stupid people being stupid, let's make sure they're the ones punished and not a scapegoat.

He's in a position of influence so a lot of what he says carries weight. He doesn't even need to directly tell people to do stupid shit. If he's indirectly saying it's OK to do stupid shit, he's influential enough that people will do stupid shit. It's not about scapegoating (the idiots should still be punished) but ensuring he's held to account. He's a politician now, literally everything he says and does now needs to be scrutinised.  

Held into account for what though? Where did he say to people that it's okay to be racist? If he did then yes he deserves heat, but still he has no physical control over other people's actions, so the real issue is still that people are willingly choosing to be stupid, but some wanna focus solely on Trump instead as if he's the lead organizer of all this racism.



celador on 10 November 2016

Most of these are so clearly fake, it's ridiculous.

It's also funny how the media ignore all the people calling for the death of white people on social media or the black guys beating up a Trump supporter in a car park. But then I shouldn't be surprised, they have ignored the hatred, racism and sexism of the left for years. I've long since lost count of all the articles I've read from the left about how shitty white men/people are. So weird how they talk about Trump hate when it has been Hillary supporters attacking people, suppressing people, harassing people and trying to get people to lose their jobs for not fitting their liberal views.

Mainstream media is a shit-stain, and is rightly losing it's relevancy as this election has so wonderfully shown