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KLAMarine on 31 October 2017
ryuzaki57 said:
I think BananaKing might still be right in a way. Look, Switch is selling fast but software sales tell the same story told before with the Wii and the WiiU : first party shines but 3rd parties bite the dust. At some point Switch is bound to struggle from its weak library and the lack of 3rd party exclusives. It may end up far stronger than the WiiU, but it will have had the same trajectory.

Was the Switch, in OP's words, dead on arrival or not?



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Bofferbrauer2 on 31 October 2017
RolStoppable said:
mZuzek said:

Well, I guess the Xbox One X could be considered the most powerful system then?

Well... things have definitely changed. Both Sony and Microsoft have left the usual course of console generations. In the past, companies made add-ons at times in order to advertise a power advantage, but Sony and Microsoft launched more powerful versions of their existing consoles and mandate improved graphics to developers.

But considering the timing of the Xbox One X - launching long after the generation had already been decided - it's clearly more of a footnote than a proper comparison for the generation as a whole.

I personally consider PS4, Xbox ONE and Wii U as 8th Gen, and PS4 Pro, Xbox ONE X and Switch as Gen 8.5

There where such interludes before. In between 4th and 5th gen with Philips CDi, 3DO, Amiga CD32, and you could also count Sega's X32 and NECs SuperGraphX to this. The Atari 5200 could be seen as Gen 2.5 considering how quickly it got replaced by the 7800, too. Upgrades within a generation are not new, just very seldom used.



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PAOerfulone on 31 October 2017

7.63 million units shipped through September; More than any other Nintendo system in the last 16 years besides that Wii and Game Boy Advance.

After 3 quarters:
GBA: 9.58M
GCN: 3.38M
DS: 6.65M
Wii: 9.27M
3DS: 6.68M
WiiU: 3.61M
Switch: 7.63M

*credit to StarDoor


For a system that is supposed to be dead on arrival... Not too bad.



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zorg1000 on 31 October 2017
PAOerfulone said:

7.63 million units shipped through September; More than any other Nintendo system in the last 16 years besides that Wii and Game Boy Advance.

After 3 quarters:
GBA: 9.58M
GCN: 3.38M
DS: 6.65M
Wii: 9.27M
3DS: 6.68M
WiiU: 3.61M
Switch: 7.63M

*credit to StarDoor


For a system that is supposed to be dead on arrival... Not too bad.

You can safely add NES, Gameboy & SNES to the list of consoles Switch is outpacing



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StarDoor on 31 October 2017

Software sales after 3 quarters: (Attach rate in parentheses)
GBA: 21.80M (2.28)
GCN: 14.37M (4.25)
DS: 15.82M (2.38)
Wii: 44.82M (4.83)
3DS: 17.56M (2.63)
WiiU: 14.44M (4.00)
Switch: 27.48M (3.60)

Switch has a higher attach rate than all of the handhelds, but a lower attach rate than all of the home consoles.

However, bundled software is counted in these numbers: Wii Sports inflates the Wii's attach rate by at least 0.8, and Nintendo Land has a similar effect on Wii U. Not to mention how GameCube, Wii, and Wii U all went through a holiday season in this period, while Switch did not.

For reference, Wii sold 15.98 million units of software in its second and third quarters (Jan-June 2007), while Switch sold 22.02 million units of software in that period (Apr-Sep 2017).

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abroZ on 01 November 2017
Green098 said:
habam said:

Sorry but a home console from 2017 with the power of the boosted ps3 that didnt even come with a decent controller for home console play while the ps4 (way stronger, better lineup) is around 250$ isnt a great home console.

It is if it has the best two rated games of this year on it.

And along with Mario kart 8 deluxe. The switch has 3 of the four highest rated games of the year on its system. The other one being persona 5 which only beats Mario kart by 1% on metacritic. 



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OTBWY on 01 November 2017

Some people are seriously still in denial.



zippy on 01 November 2017
ryuzaki57 said:
I think BananaKing might still be right in a way. Look, Switch is selling fast but software sales tell the same story told before with the Wii and the WiiU : first party shines but 3rd parties bite the dust. At some point Switch is bound to struggle from its weak library and the lack of 3rd party exclusives. It may end up far stronger than the WiiU, but it will have had the same trajectory.

 

Must try harder

Wyrdness on 01 November 2017
OTBWY said:
Some people are seriously still in denial.

Feels like they're death row waiting for Pokemon to end it all.



OTBWY on 01 November 2017
Wyrdness said:
OTBWY said:
Some people are seriously still in denial.

Feels like they're death row waiting for Pokemon to end it all.

At this point, Pokemon wouldn't matter. Goalposts can widen to infinity.