Normchacho said:
Slimebeast said:
1. She claims America is systemically racist. She has a policy to reward millions of illegal immigrants instead of deporting them. In general, in her speech and in her policies she criticizes white part of society and promotes minorities and immigrants, often at the expense of white people. She blames whites for all sorts of problems but never says anything negative about minorities or migrants. The grave accusations against the Alt-Right in her recent speech, pulling the race card all the time. This evil woman demonizes the white man.
2. Why would it be bad if the Japanese weren't the majority in Japan? Why is it wrong that I want to maintain Sweden Swedish? No one wants to be a stranger on their own shores. No one wants to be minority in his own land.
The US simply must have a mass immigration problem if according to the latest statistics, white Americans (as in non-Hispanic whites, which is an official US statistical category) have become a minority in the US, or are a few years away of becoming minority (I do not know exactly). Black people make up only 13%, so who else is making non-hispanic whites become a minority? It must be due to immigration.
Half a million yearly is not correct. Official numbers show that legal net migration to the US has averaged 1.2 million yearly since 1990.
And on top of that there's supposedly 12 million illegal migrants residing in the USA, which means that actual migration to the US has been roughly 1.7 million per year in the last 25 years, or 44 million people. That's certainly mass immigration.
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1. The US does have a race problem. It's not as bad as a lot of other countries, but it does exist and you can point that out without being anti-white.
2. "American" isn't an ethnic group. A child born to immigrant parents today is no less Ameircan than someone who's ancestors fought in the revolutionary war.
Sorry, I was incorrect. Though I'm seeing an average of about 940k according to the migration policy institute from 1990 to 2014. That includes both legal and illegal immigration.
Beyond that, the vast majority of research on the subject shows that immigration has no negative effect on crime or the economy in the United States.
So there isn't any real information to back the ideas that the alt-right is pushing.
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1. You're not advancing the discussion much by such vague statements. "The US has a race problem", okay. But how big is it? Hillary puts a lot of emphasis on the issue, as if it was so huge in importance that it shadows issues like crime and security. It's not.
2. But White is an ethnic group. Who said anything about Americans and citizenship? The topic from the very start was ethnicity and that white people are concerned about becoming a minority. White flight is a real thing. Many white people say these fancy things about everyone being equal and how they are against discrimination but they're all gonna move from their neighborhoods if they end up being a minority. In USA as well as in Sweden.
Okay, you try to downplay the immigration numbers I see. And yet somehow, perhaps it is some kind of magic then, whites have become a minority. In larger cities soon a tiny minority according to official projections. Some strange magic. But it's not due to immigration!
Yes, many things suggest that immigration is in many ways beneficial to the USA. But if it wasn't, would you think it was okay to be against immigration?
