If you have enough money to get a high performance gaming PC there is no reason not to extend your gaming possibilities with a cheap PS4 Pro.

PS4 pro as a concept is the best thing that happened to PC gamers ever. The concept at least. Now if they only used an actual CPU and GPU instead of hybrid potato.

PC gaming has its benefits, but good luck with your 10+ year plan

More than 30fps means new experience? Interesting.

I have a beastly rig of a PC, and I'm getting a PS Quad Pro. God gamer race. I say don't choose to limit your experience, but ofcoz the choice is yours.

Well, that's quite what happened to me. I was very underwhelmed by the PS4 Pro presentation as well. I just don't see the benefits and think there are too many drawbacks to justify that step. What really got on my nerves though, was the fact that many games won't even give you the option of running the game at 60 fps. It would be possible with any game if you sacrifice 4K resolution, but developers decide and for some reason won't allow it in some cases.

I don't know, the PS4 Pro doesn't do any good for me and console gaming as I loved it is now pretty much dead. If I have to deal with gigantic day one patches, full installations on HDD and now upgrades every few years anyway, I may as well switch to PC altogether. And that's what I did, I got myself a new gaming notebook just two days ago. Nothing too fancy, but it plays every modern game with ease at Full HD, in many cases with 60 fps. An if there's a Witcher 3 which refuses to work in 60 fps in 1080p? Well, then I can either play at 30 fps or bump that resolution down to 720p for glorious fluid 60 fps.

I'm loving it so far and I'm not looking back. I also consider building a rig at the end of the year with a GeForce 1070 or something. I'll have to see just how much I'll be enjoying PC gaming in the coming months to justify such an investment. But I'm really turned off by the PS4 right now and I haven't touched the console for months anyway. I'll get back to it for Persona 5. But I think that's about it for me and consoles for this generation.

I'm not saying modern consoles are BS or something, but they're just not anymore what I expect from them. So hello PC, nice to get back to you after about 10 years of nearly exclusively playing on consoles.

Oh, and I also had to laugh a little when I read that Sony built the Pro to compete with PC. Had quite the opposite effect in my case. I mean, I know I'm not the centre of the universe and the masses probably think differently about that whole topic, but I still had to chuckle. =D

Well if you can live without the exclusive console games, then good for you.

Y'all got a Wii U, 3DS, Vita and X1 yet?. Being a god gamer means owning all the platforms, the whole caboodle. 

Also I don't really see him limiting his experience by moving from a closed platform to an open one that gives him a library that dwarfs current gen systems. Like you said, it is his own choice after all and not everyone has the insane dosh to get that beastly rig and every single console, let alone the time for each and every one of them (I'd assume if you owned all, then you would split your prefs and time between every one of them).

How is he not when he can't play the first party exclusives?

I find that modern games are worse versions of older games so I don't have any interest in the modern consoles, I just like how the Xbox One S looks =D

Did you ask him if he was interested in all of them?, or if he saw value and worth buying the system for them?.

Also you dodged the rest of my question from the beginning.