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Will the Scorpio sell for no more than $399 (if its 6Tflops).

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I sincerely doubt it will be $399US. I can see upwards of $499US easily.



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Lawlight said:
Eddie_Raja said:
Wow 67% of people have no idea what they are talking about. LMAO I can build a PC RIGHT NOW for $600 that matches the Scorpio specs!

In a year graphics cards (At the same price) will be 20-40% stronger than they are now, and therefore I could easily build a 6 TFLOP PC for $400.



Hey you guys do realize the $110 RX 460 is 20% stronger than the PS4's GPU... right? Sony could be selling the PS4S for $250 but they don't have to because XBOX no longer brings any competition to the console space.

Amazon says it's $140. How you can get a controller, motherboard, RAM, casing, etc, etc. for $160 more is beyond me. Sorry to break your bubble but you cannot but a more powerful gaming PC than the PS4S for $300. Or a more powerful gaming PC that the PS4P for $400.

Then learn how to google.

$110 - 460

$70 - CPU (Athlon x4)

$40 - 8GBRAM 

$45 - mobo

$30 - HDD

$30 - PSU

$30 - Case

 

So that's $355 for a PC 20% stronger than the $300 PS4.  Keep in mind that Sony doesn't need to pay for Windows.  They are making A LOT of money right now.

If you really want a laugh consider this would be almost twice as strong as the $300 X1S...



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

Snoopy said:
The reason why Microsoft didn't release scorpio this year is because they are waiting for it to be cheaper.

Exactly, and people don't seem to get this.   If it launched now it would probably break even at $550, and they want to profit at $400.  

 

Actually what this tells me is they don't really care anymore if they lose marketshare.  They should have launched this NOW for $500 and taken the loss.



Prediction for console Lifetime sales:

Wii:100-120 million, PS3:80-110 million, 360:70-100 million

[Prediction Made 11/5/2009]

3DS: 65m, PSV: 22m, Wii U: 18-22m, PS4: 80-120m, X1: 35-55m

I gauruntee the PS5 comes out after only 5-6 years after the launch of the PS4.

[Prediction Made 6/18/2014]

If a $399 Xbox One S isn't consisted premium with old tech then I can see the Scorpio being at least $500-600 machine.

A new custom GPU, more expensive RAM, maybe a new CPU, possibly 1&2TB HDD to support 4K content 4K UHD player and more.

By logic, if they can release a Scorpio at $400 with the above and break even out only make a $50 loss, then the PS4 Pro should be able to drop the price of its costs by $100 dollars.



Eddie_Raja said:
Lawlight said:

Amazon says it's $140. How you can get a controller, motherboard, RAM, casing, etc, etc. for $160 more is beyond me. Sorry to break your bubble but you cannot but a more powerful gaming PC than the PS4S for $300. Or a more powerful gaming PC that the PS4P for $400.

Then learn how to google.

$110 - 460

$70 - CPU (Athlon x4)

$40 - 8GBRAM 

$45 - mobo

$30 - HDD

$30 - PSU

$30 - Case

 

So that's $355 for a PC 20% stronger than the $300 PS4.  Keep in mind that Sony doesn't need to pay for Windows.  They are making A LOT of money right now.

If you really want a laugh consider this would be almost twice as strong as the $300 X1S...

OS + a controller and all that in a relatively compact box. That takes lot of money to manufacture than you think

To me lot of people expecting a 400$ console are going to disappointed. It is significantly more powerful than Xbone S which is 300$ and I do not think this is dropping to 200$. May be on sale for 250$ for limited time at best



 

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Eddie_Raja said:
Lawlight said:

Amazon says it's $140. How you can get a controller, motherboard, RAM, casing, etc, etc. for $160 more is beyond me. Sorry to break your bubble but you cannot but a more powerful gaming PC than the PS4S for $300. Or a more powerful gaming PC that the PS4P for $400.

Then learn how to google.

$110 - 460

$70 - CPU (Athlon x4)

$40 - 8GBRAM 

$45 - mobo

$30 - HDD

$30 - PSU

$30 - Case

 

So that's $355 for a PC 20% stronger than the $300 PS4.  Keep in mind that Sony doesn't need to pay for Windows.  They are making A LOT of money right now.

If you really want a laugh consider this would be almost twice as strong as the $300 X1S...

I need links for those. Where's the controller? OS? Prices for the 2 models that you gave from newegg (first item on google):

Athlon 4x - $99.98 so $100.

RX 460 - $150

Seems to me like you're full of it, mate.



Captain_Yuri said:
I don't think its going any higher than 6TF cause why do they need to? Its more powerful than the Ps4Pro so no need to up the TF and increase the price.

As far as Price is concerned, I highly doubt it will go above $450. If MS is really feeling it, maybe $400. MS, while they have made some stupid decisions in the past, shouldn't be this stupid to try and sell a console at $500 a second time. Yea its more powerful but they must realize that $400 is the perfect price point for consoles these days (except the underpowered ones). So I think MS will try to hit near that $400 mark at $450 being the highest.

Remember, we all thought Ps4Pro will be $450-$500 but it ended up being $400. I think going above $450 will be overshooting it.

I think this is absolutely correct.  $399 is the top of the market for consoles.  



Lawlight said:
Eddie_Raja said:
Wow 67% of people have no idea what they are talking about. LMAO I can build a PC RIGHT NOW for $600 that matches the Scorpio specs!

In a year graphics cards (At the same price) will be 20-40% stronger than they are now, and therefore I could easily build a 6 TFLOP PC for $400.



Hey you guys do realize the $110 RX 460 is 20% stronger than the PS4's GPU... right? Sony could be selling the PS4S for $250 but they don't have to because XBOX no longer brings any competition to the console space.

Amazon says it's $140. How you can get a controller, motherboard, RAM, casing, etc, etc. for $160 more is beyond me. Sorry to break your bubble but you cannot but a more powerful gaming PC than the PS4S for $300. Or a more powerful gaming PC that the PS4P for $400.

Sure. But, Sony is paying a whole lot less than we are.  

On the other hand, they do have to distribute and market the console, whereas we don't have to worry about those costs in a home built PC.  



Eddie_Raja said:

$110 - 460

$70 - CPU (Athlon x4)

$40 - 8GBRAM 

$45 - mobo

$30 - HDD

$30 - PSU

$30 - Case

So that's $355 for a PC 20% stronger than the $300 PS4.  Keep in mind that Sony doesn't need to pay for Windows.  They are making A LOT of money right now.

If you really want a laugh consider this would be almost twice as strong as the $300 X1S...

This... this is an awful post.  "Athlon X4" ... which one. "Mobo"... what motherboard? "PSU" What PSU?

 

 



lol.. Moore's law..

Your whole argument centers around Tflops..

Ps3 also had 1.84 Tflops. Doh!