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Azzanation said:
Azuren said:

Nope, you'd need to spend $400 to match a PS4. And PC exclusives are almost invariably designed with a keyboard/mouse in mind, so the only games you'll be playing with a controller are the ones you can play on console (unless you like badly optimized controls that have been adapted from KB/M via a third party program).

 

There are 187 games confirmed for PS4 that are unavailable on PC. That 187 things that PC can't do.

 

And you're arguing against similar platforms, and also saying he should have a PC and XB1? Sorry, but your bias is showing. If you own a PC, there is literally no reason to also own an XB1 anymore, or have you not been paying attention for the past two months? And I mean paying attention to facts, not just things that you find agreeable.

 

All that aside, I'm sure if he wanted a PC, he'd have one by now. He clearly wants a console, and he's clearly unimpressed by XB1 enough to want to try PS4.

Really? How do you gather that? Your suggesting a PS4 because it has more games confirmed than X1, if that’s the reason than I suggest PC because there are a lot more games than PS4 and a whole back catalogue and unlimited amount of apps to choose from. I bet most of them are VR and indie titles as well, something PC also has a lot of. Also 90% of games use controllers, only the RTS and MMOs are exclusive to Mouse and Keyboard since you can’t actually play them on a controller. Your knowledge on PC gaming doesn’t sound good at all.

 I suggested to stay with X1 since there’s hardly any difference between the two consoles. Your only suggestion is PS4 because of the amount of games confirmed... haha you don’t think Games are being made for PC and X1 as well? I don’t recommend owning both X1 and PC. If you have a PC than you don’t need either console since most of PS4 games comes to PC as well, example, SF5 and No Man Sky etc.

 Back to the OP.

 To avoid the hassle and you like using ESPN, just hold onto what you have because switching is not going to make a huge difference plus there are newer consoles around the corner which will most likely drop the current price even more on the older hardware so I suggest wait. The X1 is a great system with some great games coming out like ReCore, Sea Of Thieves, Gears 4 and Horizon 3 just to scrap the surface. Also X1 has a growing back catalogue of 360 games which means you wont need your 360 anymore and can still play your old games without paying for them again like the PS4.

Again, he's clearly not looking for a PC, so feel free to continue arguing yourself into a cycle of dense comments. And that 90% of games is either on PS4 or has an upcoming release date for it... Or it just too garbage to make it. Then there's the observable fact that there are more games on PS4 than XB1. I swear to god, you're the most aggravatingly biased user on this site, so much that nearly every post you make is teetering on the verge of reportable for bait. You constantly ignore facts and hard numbers in favor for your fantasy land facts that revolve around the XB1 being better "because", and there's no reason to own a PS4 when objective numbers day otherwise. More games, higher average rating for exclusives on metacritic, plays third party games at better settings, but no- Xbox One is better and he should stick with it. In fact, he should even get a PC to go with it, despite owning one negating the bonuses of owning the other. 

 

To the OP: Feel free to ignore this guy. All he does is shit all over Sony all day on the forums, so he's never going to admit a switch would be better as far as gaming is concerned, even if he knows it in the very pit of his soul. If you feel Vue isn't enough, just grab a 2016 Roku stick; they're fantastic, and it'll have everything you're looking for. Bonus, if your fiance watches things on the Roku stick, you can grab a Vita and Remote Play you're PS4. Import the Hori R2/L2 grip for the Vita ($30 on playasia.com) and you may end up spending most of your time Remote Playing anyway. 

 

FYI, Remote Play can also be run from PSTV (a Vita that runs on the TV, can easily find it for $40) in a different room of the house. Not only that, but there is also a Remote Play app for Windows and Mac OS. You could also grab a hacked Remote Play APK for your phone (or a legit APK if you have A Sony phone), meaning your Remote Play options can be immediate and free if you have an android phone. This could easily bump the amount of time you have for gaming if the main deterrent is her TV habits. 



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Soonerman said:

I have been contemplating selling my Xbox One or trading it to get a Playstation 4. I can't deny that there are a lot of games that the PS4 has that I want to play plus I'm somewhat upset Microsoft is letting go of Kinect by removing things like Xbox Fitness. Sadly, I cannot have two consoles seeing how I'm a full-time professional with plenty of work to do plus in a committed relationship about to get married at the end of the year.

So there are a couple of issues before I do make that jump, though. First, I am a wire cutter and the fewer machines I have to watch TV, the better. The reason I enjoy my Xbox One is that I'm pretty casual, and it has the ESPN app and pretty much all the typical apps like Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and SlingTV, etc. I understand that PS4 does not have ESPN app except on the whole PS Vue I believe. But if I'm correct that PS TV thing charges to use, am I correct?

So let me know if it's worth it to make the switch for someone like me.

By the way Wii U owners, what apps does the Wii U have? I am also considering it if it has the apps I mentioned above.

I am a happy ps vue user and I was against it at first. I thought it was a dumb idea that cost as much as having a tv service.

After awhile I tried the 7 day free trial on a whim and my family loved it over what we had (fios).  

First take: I actually checked my existing costs closer

So I then did the math (which I should of done from the begining instead of listening to game reviewers opining, honestly) and learned to my surprise it would save me alot of money. I called and cut my plan off and in the process got a better internet price and swapped over and have not looked back. It saves me roughly $70 a month, give or take.  

Second take: Quality

Another point at which I should have ignored sites (like I tend to do on game reviews) I learned the quality is good.  

Pros:

The menu blows away the speed (excruciatingly slow) of fios

The app blows away the app I had for tablet use from Fios (my wife, who uses it the most, loves it so much more)

It has all the channels I need and I like the tiers it offers

I love the unlimited dvr (i paid more for no dvr on fios)

I like the netflix type menu and search features (if I want sci fi, I search that and voila I get tons of upcoming sci fi I can save for DVR later)

My family loves having their own profiles of their stuff as it personalizes the experience 

It has had multiple improvements to it since I started not least of which was giving me a monthly price cut of $10

Cons:

Works on multiple devices simultaneously except two ps4's (which I was told was a licensing issue they're working on).  I did not have more then one cable box so it's not a huge deal but I do interestingly have two ps4's so I'd like that function.  I could always use a roku or amazon stick (which sony mailed me free btw, although I stupidly gave it away to someone) but it's the principle :).  

I only post this because I saw a lt of negativity about this service for awhile and I let it persuade me when I shouldn't have.  There is a free trial so I'd sugeest anyone interested at least try it.  If you're totally against it than ignore my post :).  

My last thought:

I wish MS would do a similar service to create competition and (hopefully) drive this type of service farther.  It's like netflix for tv and I like it a lot.  Having more options would be excellent. 



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I was almost certain that this thread was going to be from another user and about a different thing completely >.>

That said at OP I would really suggest keeping onto the system you have if it gives you all the apps you want to use right now, maybe if you could afford to do so get a PS4 but just put the X1 to the side for the time being, see if you can live without the apps that you require from it, you might find another bunch of TV related apps on the ps4 which you find takes over your need to fire up the X1, but yeah I wouldn't advise selling one before you know that you have a replacement for all it offers you.

As for the above chat about a PC, the guy has space issues for 2 systems, I mean... could get a HTPC but most likely wants something powerful enough to blast out some good HD gaming at the same time and is on a bit of a budget, I don't think really powerful HTPC would fill this gap on Sooners shelf.



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Normchacho said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Youre actually agreeing with me, PS4 alone isnt as good as more options. You have a gaming PC for that reason.

Also, the OP said he plays maybe 5 to 10 hours a week. Thats an avid gamer in my opinion. He could finish all the notable PS4 games in a few months at that rate. Unless hes a fan of niche Japanese stuff.

So, because I'm a dork, I've done the math on this using the main+extras times from Howlongtobeat. I've included the notable remasters since he didn't have a PS3.

NDC = 30 hours

Bloodborne = 45 hours

Uncharted 4 = 17 hours

R&C = 11.5 hours

Infamous SS = 14 hours

TLOU:R = 17.5 hours

GOWIII:R = 10.5 hours

Until Dawn = 9 hours

The Witness = 25.5 hours

Driveclub = 35 hours

SFV = 2.5 hours

MLB 2016  = 39 hours

Assuming that he plays 7.5 hours a week, plays all of those games and nothing else, it would take him about 8 months to play all of them.

Of course, games will be coming out in that 6 month stretch as well. But it would still likely take him less than a year to get all caught up on "notable" PS4 games.

I'd like to reiterate that I agree with you that he probably shouldn't get rid of his Xbox One, but I totally understand him just not having the time to support two consoles.

I don't consider all of those notable experiences, depends on preference.

Anyway, we both suggest more platforms is better than one. Nothing further to discuss.



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Lrdfancypants said:
Soonerman said:

I have been contemplating selling my Xbox One or trading it to get a Playstation 4. I can't deny that there are a lot of games that the PS4 has that I want to play plus I'm somewhat upset Microsoft is letting go of Kinect by removing things like Xbox Fitness. Sadly, I cannot have two consoles seeing how I'm a full-time professional with plenty of work to do plus in a committed relationship about to get married at the end of the year.

So there are a couple of issues before I do make that jump, though. First, I am a wire cutter and the fewer machines I have to watch TV, the better. The reason I enjoy my Xbox One is that I'm pretty casual, and it has the ESPN app and pretty much all the typical apps like Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and SlingTV, etc. I understand that PS4 does not have ESPN app except on the whole PS Vue I believe. But if I'm correct that PS TV thing charges to use, am I correct?

So let me know if it's worth it to make the switch for someone like me.

By the way Wii U owners, what apps does the Wii U have? I am also considering it if it has the apps I mentioned above.

I am a happy ps vue user and I was against it at first. I thought it was a dumb idea that cost as much as having a tv service.

After awhile I tried the 7 day free trial on a whim and my family loved it over what we had (fios).  

First take: I actually checked my existing costs closer

So I then did the math (which I should of done from the begining instead of listening to game reviewers opining, honestly) and learned to my surprise it would save me alot of money. I called and cut my plan off and in the process got a better internet price and swapped over and have not looked back. It saves me roughly $70 a month, give or take.  

Second take: Quality

Another point at which I should have ignored sites (like I tend to do on game reviews) I learned the quality is good.  

Pros:

The menu blows away the speed (excruciatingly slow) of fios

The app blows away the app I had for tablet use from Fios (my wife, who uses it the most, loves it so much more)

It has all the channels I need and I like the tiers it offers

I love the unlimited dvr (i paid more for no dvr on fios)

I like the netflix type menu and search features (if I want sci fi, I search that and voila I get tons of upcoming sci fi I can save for DVR later)

My family loves having their own profiles of their stuff as it personalizes the experience 

It has had multiple improvements to it since I started not least of which was giving me a monthly price cut of $10

Cons:

Works on multiple devices simultaneously except two ps4's (which I was told was a licensing issue they're working on).  I did not have more then one cable box so it's not a huge deal but I do interestingly have two ps4's so I'd like that function.  I could always use a roku or amazon stick (which sony mailed me free btw, although I stupidly gave it away to someone) but it's the principle :).  

I only post this because I saw a lt of negativity about this service for awhile and I let it persuade me when I shouldn't have.  There is a free trial so I'd sugeest anyone interested at least try it.  If you're totally against it than ignore my post :).  

My last thought:

I wish MS would do a similar service to create competition and (hopefully) drive this type of service farther.  It's like netflix for tv and I like it a lot.  Having more options would be excellent. 

Me too.  At first I was hesitant in subscribing to ps vue but after trying the basic one, I was hooked.  The best part is that the pricing include taxes and fees so no hidden fees that other companies don't tell you. 



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aLkaLiNE said:

The push and pull Dynamic between two vocal minorities here is somewhat amusing.

Group A "We love you, join us"
Group B "Why not both? They're basically the same anyway"

 

Azzanation said:

 I suggested to stay with X1 since there’s hardly any difference between the two consoles.

Called it :P



welcome brother :) i am not watching TV anymore, but i am pretty sure there are Android TVs out there or something who can play your apps as my advice



Angelv577 said:
Lrdfancypants said:

I am a happy ps vue user and I was against it at first. I thought it was a dumb idea that cost as much as having a tv service.

After awhile I tried the 7 day free trial on a whim and my family loved it over what we had (fios).  

First take: I actually checked my existing costs closer

So I then did the math (which I should of done from the begining instead of listening to game reviewers opining, honestly) and learned to my surprise it would save me alot of money. I called and cut my plan off and in the process got a better internet price and swapped over and have not looked back. It saves me roughly $70 a month, give or take.  

Second take: Quality

Another point at which I should have ignored sites (like I tend to do on game reviews) I learned the quality is good.  

Pros:

The menu blows away the speed (excruciatingly slow) of fios

The app blows away the app I had for tablet use from Fios (my wife, who uses it the most, loves it so much more)

It has all the channels I need and I like the tiers it offers

I love the unlimited dvr (i paid more for no dvr on fios)

I like the netflix type menu and search features (if I want sci fi, I search that and voila I get tons of upcoming sci fi I can save for DVR later)

My family loves having their own profiles of their stuff as it personalizes the experience 

It has had multiple improvements to it since I started not least of which was giving me a monthly price cut of $10

Cons:

Works on multiple devices simultaneously except two ps4's (which I was told was a licensing issue they're working on).  I did not have more then one cable box so it's not a huge deal but I do interestingly have two ps4's so I'd like that function.  I could always use a roku or amazon stick (which sony mailed me free btw, although I stupidly gave it away to someone) but it's the principle :).  

I only post this because I saw a lt of negativity about this service for awhile and I let it persuade me when I shouldn't have.  There is a free trial so I'd sugeest anyone interested at least try it.  If you're totally against it than ignore my post :).  

My last thought:

I wish MS would do a similar service to create competition and (hopefully) drive this type of service farther.  It's like netflix for tv and I like it a lot.  Having more options would be excellent. 

Me too.  At first I was hesitant in subscribing to ps vue but after trying the basic one, I was hooked.  The best part is that the pricing include taxes and fees so no hidden fees that other companies don't tell you. 

You're right. That's another pro column item. 



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