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Because handhelds have traditionally been old tech, the screens are 1/100th of the size of a TV and the games were smaller in size (as well as being technologically inferior to their console brethren).



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Because game devs had historically treated them as such. But things are changing and even today you can see Handhelds competing and even overcoming consoles in some areas. For example "grindy" game Bravely Default is leagues better than any current-gen console turn-based jrpg as of this writing. (non-port/remake and console-only, duh!)

Now, I wonder what people would say about Disgea 5 vs Fire Emblem (Awakening and/or Fates).



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Ganoncrotch said:
0D0 said:

All this.

This topic can be closed now :)

Dear me when having surround sound with great bass is what is needed for a console then everything up until the X360/ps3 were not consoles since titles before that had dolby in cutscenes but almost never in game, also a big screen allows multiple people to play it so that makes a console a real console? but... that would suggest that consoles are focusing on couch co-op now? I mean... the feature which was removed from Halo 5 completely because as people suggested "just isn't used by people anymore" so I guess that means the range of consoles which would fall into the category of having surround sound and also supporting couch multiplayer really was just 2 of the systems from the 7th generation lol, that is some fantastic logic.

Also when people suggest that handhelds are not considered consoles because of inferior power, keep in mind that the GBC had a processor almost double that of the Super Nintendo in terms of sheer Mhz speed in it... not to mention the fact that if you only consider a system to be considered worthy of gaming console when it has the most power... no actual console has ever rivaled the year equivilant PC in terms of sheer horsepower meaning that no console... has ever been worthy of the title "Console".

 

 

As for the OP I'm in agreement with you, playing some titles on the Vita's glorious OLED screen in bed with headphones on is one of the most immersive ways of playing games, that screen just makes gaming great when it comes to horror like Resident Evil revelations being able to fully get down to a true black screen for segments makes a gaming experience far superior to what most gamers will experience playing on LCD or LED TVs in their living rooms.

Only issue with OLED is that battery life worsens. Better picture quality, but at the cost of higher production costs.

Considering how Sony is probably done with handhelds, I wonder what type of screen the NXDS will have. LCD, LED, or perhaps OLED?

 

But I agree with you on handhelds. People who dismiss handhelds typically don't realize how great their libraries are. Just look at Nintendo. The 3DS got an entire smash game with great graphics(that is if you remove the ugly black lines). It has Pokemon; it got Kid Icarus Uprising, which is a console-level game. The Vita also has a large library of games.

 

Sure, obviously consoles are great, but handhelds are as well, especially for occassions where you just want to relax somewhere else. not only that, but you can live with a smaller resolution, as it isn't noticable for small screens



 

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Real question: Have you ever played on a home console before? I ask because even as a little kid, it was common sense once I tried them out(or just look at them) the first time even if I was bias towards handhelds. Same with movies made specifically for tv and movies made specifically for theaters.



Because they are. Let's not kid ourselves. In terms of hardware and game libraries, handhelds are definitely inferior. They can't play the same games as home consoles or pc. Handhelds have their place though. They are very convenient and certain genres are supported more on that platform.



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Kai_Mao said:
bigtakilla said:

Kingdom Hearts 3D is pretty sgnificant to the story. 

Unfortunately, having Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 coming soon sorta puts down that example...

Though there are other examples such as the Legend of Zelda: the Minish Cap (which shows how Link got his hat, and is considered the second or third game of the supposed timeline) and A Link Between Worlds (basically a reimagination/sequel to A Link to the Past).

Fire Emblem has about five games from its mainline series on handhelds and they, actually, sell much better on handhelds compared to the home console installments.

Metroid Fusion and Metroid II are significant as well. II, while not considered a great game, had important plot points that led to Super Metroid and Fusion is basically the follow-up of Super Metroid and Other M, with a conclusion that gives Metroid fans some hope for a possible sequel to Fusion.

Kirby's Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot are good examples as well.

Heck, Mega Man Battle Network was completely its own series from the original Mega Man games.

And it's hard to dismiss even some of the handheld Mario games. One introduced Wario and another, some would say, paved the way for a bigger experience in Mario 3D World.

Doesn't really change that it was on a handheld for years prior. It was an important part of the story, and it came out on 3DS. 



Because they are.



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Ganoncrotch said:
Louie said:
I'd guess because core gamers like big, expensive, and technically superb games and you can't get that on handhelds. There are some types of games that are definitely better suited to gaming on the go in my opinion but these are not the games people on gaming forums like.

People on here dislike Pokemon?

Come on, you'd love a Pokémon MMORPG on a home console with great graphics... admit it :P 



I don't see handhelds as inferior, i just have very little time to play them. I haven't even turned on my 3DS XL, in about 6 or 7 months now.



PCs, consoles, motion controls, handhelds, and yes, smartphones. All can offer fresh experiences you don't get anywhere else.

Nothing is objectively inferior, it's all about what you want to play and how willing you are to try something new and drop off the "hardcore" gamer attitude.

We couldn't have a thread about a mobile game announcement without the "tough" hardcore gamers trolling the heck out of it. Now Pokemon Go is all the rage.

Be more open to new experiences, in everything in life, not just gaming, and you will be a much happier person.