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Slimebeast on 22 July 2016
Yerm said:

 

Games keep getting better- As hardware evolves, the games we have now will just keep getting better. What I mean by that is, right now I could play a AAA game in low or medium settings. In a few years the hardware will evolve and the PC i have then will be able to play the same games in higher quality and framerate. Whereas with consoles, you just have to hope the new one will have backwards compatibility, or for Nintendo gamers you can hope VC keeps up with time. 

I love this argument. It's actually only in recent years I've consciously noticed this fact. It's really lovely when you go back to a game in your backlog that you started but didn't complete, or you did complete but you just want to replay it, and meanwhile you have replaced your hardware and all of a sudden the game looks much better and runs in an ultra smooth framerate.



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Kerotan on 22 July 2016

Ps4 and pc are my platforms. Although it's been over a year since I played a game on it (age of mythology).

It just suits me a lot better.

I get a lot of free ps plus games that takes up a lot of time, the exclusives I prefer on ps4 and then most of the people I know in my area play the ps4 but not pc.

And those that play pc play games I've zero interest in. Unlike ps4 friends who play the likes of fifa, battlefield, Rocket league, gta, rainbow 6 etc which are basically the games I like to play with my friends.

As long as Sony keep successfully making Playstations I can't see this situation changing. Console gaming for me is better than ever.



Conina on 22 July 2016
SvennoJ said:

No need to get angry. Laptop was a good deal 2.5 years ago, 2.5ghz i7, GT740m, ran ED and most games fine at the time. Dreamfall chapters if horribly optimized, doesn't even run well on a gt1080. It would never have been released in that state on consoles.

I seriously doubt that Dreamfall Chapters doesn't run well on an GTX 1080. With all settings maxed out in 1080p, it even ran on my GTX 970 (~50% performance of an GTX 1080) with 60 - 100 fps in most areas. Marcuria at night was a bit more demanding, still 40 - 50 fps there.

For an adventure game with focus on exploration and storytelling anything more than 30 fps is good enough. And I doubt that the announced PS4 version will have 1080p 60fps.



m0ney on 22 July 2016

PC is the best for me cos I multi task all day long.



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hunter_alien on 22 July 2016

Yeah... the exact opposite happens to me. The more I work on my PC, the less inclined I become to game on it. Hell the last title that I played on mine was That Dragon Cancer. I still try out indie games on it, but its mostly consoles for me. The fact is that everything screams "gaming" from them, while my PC is the same work machine I have to use every day...



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Conina on 22 July 2016

Seems like a personal problem if you need two different machines to separate work from entertainment.



0D0 on 22 July 2016
Yerm said:

In terms or current gen hardware right now, I have a Wii U, an Xbox One, and an entry level PC. So far this year I have primarily played indie games on my PC when Im at home and 3DS games when i leave the house. Up until now dI have rejected the idea of any one platform be ing superior than any other but my opinion is starting to change. There are a lot of appealing things about gaming on a PC that consoles simply can not keep up with. But one thing Ive noticed is that while there are so many different arguemnts for PC being the "master race" or gaming, none of them really cover any of the reasons PC feels better to me. So coming from a console gamer, here are the reasons I am starting to like PC.

Convinience-  Are consoles convenient? Barely. They make gaming easy but that is about it. When on a PC i can swith between watching TV, going on the internet, watching youtube videos, all on top of gaming. Consoles have tried again and again to same this same feel, but Windows really feels llike a more accessible platform to support all those things at once. Plus a PC can run muliple programs at once, which you can make out for yourself how convinient it is not to have to close out of one thing just to see another.

Mods- I am not even a fan of mods, although I probably would be if Nintendo games had mods. The type of mods I enjoy focus around improving game performance, adding new gameplay features, not so much the insane ones that can easily crash your game. Ok, so now imagine pro modders getting their hands on Smash Bros, Splatoon, any Mario game. Hell, Mario Maker could be 10x as big as it is right now if modders could mess around with it. 

Games keep getting better- As hardware evolves, the games we have now will just keep getting better. What I mean by that is, right now I could play a AAA game in low or medium settings. In a few years the hardware will evolve and the PC i have then will be able to play the same games in higher quality and framerate. Whereas with consoles, you just have to hope the new one will have backwards compatibility, or for Nintendo gamers you can hope VC keeps up with time. 

Multiplayer- Its... basically the same on a PC... I mean I have played multiplayer games on a PC, and you can barely tell the difference. just pick up some controllers, hook them up, and its the same thing. there isnt even a price difference when buying controllers.

 

now keep in mind, I am not "converting" to PC but I will definitely admit it probably is the best platform to own. I will still keep buying consoles for exclusives and travel convenience, but if you are a console gamer who has rejected the idea of using PC's, you are missing out. And yes there are still things I dont  like about PC, like the price which is a bit more than a console. and hardware specs can be a gamble unless you know what youre doing. but all things considering, PC may be the only platform I end up still using in a few years

I'm not saying that PC is bad, but for me, I don't need multi-task on my console. I play games and my iPhone is with me for chatting and internet. About Mods, I don't care, I've got a lot to play, I don't need more content for the games I play. About hardware and graphics, for me PS3 graphics was already enough. 

Perhaps I'm not a "true hardcore" gamer, so my consoles are more than enough for me.



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MikeRox on 22 July 2016

I got a PC last year, it's amazing how much more accessible they have become with services like steam vs the older days.

If anything, I actually find the PC is more turn on and play these days than the consoles.

Add in the greater flexibility with graphics settings and getting better frame rates and it's definitely going to become my main platform once I'm fully set up.



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Carl on 22 July 2016
zero129 said:

Yes Discuss. However its clear to anyone your simply trolling. It would be ok if this was your first or 2nd time doing this kind of thing. But you have made pretty much the "EXACT" same post in almost every type of thread like this.

Do you not understand that this doesnt come off as someone looking to "Discuss" anything and instead points to someone with a clear agenda.

Zero, please.

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SvennoJ on 22 July 2016
Pemalite said:
SvennoJ said:

I was never under the assumption that it would play the latest games well, just underwhelmed that recommended specs that seem close don't mean anything. Some games run great, some have a lot of problems, not all scales well

That's your problem. You think your Laptop is somehow representative of a Desktop.
Majority of "Specs" released by game developers do not include notebook specifications... Your geforce 740M for instance was released in the middle of 2014.
It is now the middle of 2016. A low-end card even on release isn't excpected to run the latest games at a decent settings to begin with.

Compared to the Desktop it is probably closer to a Geforce 730. (If it has DDR3 memory, which I assume it would.)
And compared to the 900 and 1000 series, there is no equivalent, nVidia doesn't make GPU's that slow anymore on the Desktop. ;)

Majority of even Core i7 notebooks are still only dual-core processors in an era where games are releasing with a minimum of 4 threads. That 2.5Ghz clockspeed could also just be the best-case-scenario turbo-clock.

The fact of the matter is... If you bought a PC that was designed for gaming to begin with... You would be happily gaming for Years without an upgrade.

SvennoJ said:

My original point was about convenience, you never have to check or wonder if something will be playable on console.



If you had decent hardware to begin with, you don't need to look at specifications to see if something will run, so it's not a negative in my eyes.



SvennoJ said:


It's only the convenience factor I do not agree with. You can't go to the store to buy 'the thing' and expect all the games made for 'the thing' to run well for 6 to 10 years to come.


I find PC gaming far more convenient than console these days.

Console networks don't seem to be as responsive as Steam's, so downloads take longer, they also go offline more often as Steam's network has far more redundancy. (I am looking at you Sony.)

Or they get Hacked/DDOS over a Christmas period. (Looking at you Xbox Live.)

Patches also seem to be larger and more frequent on console.
If my Xbox is connected to the internet and a patch is available, then I am unable to play that game unless I disconnect the internet and go offline.
If a patch is available on a PC game, I can ignore it and download it later or pre-load it.

It's also easier to navigate my PC library on Steam than it is to navigate my Xbox Library on my Xbox One, I have hundreds of games for both platforms, you would expect there would be some kind of sorting and categorization of titles wouldn't you on console? But nope.

There have also been tons of cases where a new released game on console has simply been unplayable for days/weeks/months, on PC usually you can find a work around... On console? Nope. You have to deal with it. (I am looking at you Battlefield 4, Halo: MCC, Skyrim etc'.)

I could keep on going, but you get the point.

On my PC I can just buy, download and start playing faster than I can on Xbox.

Fact of the matter is, Consoles are becoming more PC-like in how they operate... And it certainly hasn't been for the better in every aspect, install and load times are longer than they have ever been.

Actually my laptop does outperform my older desktop, and does have 8 threads, 4 physical cores. I tried locking it to 2.8ghz (as it normally steps up and down as laptops do) and it actaully reaches upto 3.0 ghz in high performance mode yet it doesn't seem to make any difference. The games I tried it with still only use a small percentage of the cpu according to the task manager. Must be the mobile gpu holding it back indeed. 16GB of system ram is hardly used either, the gpu only has 2gb DDR3 memory though, which is a big bottleneck nowadays.
Anyway enough of the laptop, it's very convenient to use, not that great for gaming in the long term.

As far as your other points go, I'm having quite the opposite experience on ps4. Never wait for updates as I don't play online anyways. Initial installs don't take more than 10 seconds, and my library is hand sorted on my shelf lol. However by the time Elite Dangerous is synched again on PC I'm usually out of time to play it now that I don't have much time for it anymore and can't play it regularly. It's just the nature of online games.

Sure we can go on, I simply have had more issues on PC, and also have had many more great things on PC. Just awesome I can play Worms Armageddon with my kids on Steam, the game my sister and I played with my dad 20 years ago. (earlier version sure, same game and looks great in 1080p) Just as awesome as playing wolfenstein 3D on ps3 with a controller after all that time. Both consoles and PC are great, neither is perfect.

Incidentally my kids are currently playing Champions of Norrath together of ps2. And playing Lego worlds on my laptop in splitscreen with 2 ds4 controllers. They are the real lucky ones, still too young to care about performance :)