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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

Doesn't saying it's going to possibly bring back casual gamers give a pretty big clue as to what the machine will be like? 

I don't even know why this would bother you, isn't this what you wanted? You wanted them to go back to chasing the Wii audience, well it sounds like that is what the NX is. 

Gonna be lots of stuff like Just Dance on it. Making casual games for a casual platform is "making trash"? No that's just making games for the style of the console.

I just gave you the explanation you asked for. Why are you asking the same questions again?

So you want Nintendo to make a casual platform to the point of decrying things like dual analog, but you don't want third parties to make casual games for it. I dunno if I follow the logic.

I don't even recall Ubi Soft ever "shitting on Nintendo", they've supported them a fair deal, everyone including Nintendo bailed on the Wii U, can't really fault them for that, but even there they probably supported the system better than most. 



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Miyamotoo said:

Ubisoft on NX: “what we have seen is really great”

 

Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot again commented on NX during the publisher’s financial conference call a short while ago.

Guillemot started out by mentioning what Ubisoft has seen thus far “is really great”. He also believes that the system can “take lots more casual players back in the industry.”

Guillemot’s words in full:

“On the NX, what we have seen is really great, so we think having a new machine coming is going to help the industry to continue to grow and to take lots more casual players back in the industry.”

Ubisoft has confirmed one game for NX thus far, that being Just Dance 2017. It remains to be seen what other plans the company has up its sleeves.

http://nintendoeverything.com/ubisoft-on-nx-what-we-have-seen-is-really-great/

If the video doesn't start at exactly 58 minutes in, move the cursor there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1JJPkd4Q28



Let's just hope that it won't be underpowered as all hell. Please.



                
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padib said:
Soundwave said:

So you want Nintendo to make a casual platform to the point of decrying things like dual analog, but you don't want third parties to make casual games for it. I dunno if I follow the logic.

I don't even recall Ubi Soft ever "shitting on Nintendo", they've supported them a fair deal, everyone including Nintendo bailed on the Wii U, can't really fault them for that, but even there they probably supported the system better than most. 

There's casual games, and then there are low quality games. Nintendo makes high-quality casual games most of the time.

Ubisoft always makes low quality casual games.

Well no third party really consistently makes games as good as Nintendo, doesn't mean Ubi Soft released just crap. Zombi U, Rayman Legends, even Assassin's Creed III/IV were good to great games. If you like casual gaming, then I don't see how Just Dance is worse than Wii Music or Wii Party something.  

It's not like Wii Sports or Wii Fit or Wii Party or Mario & Sonic Olympics are winning any awards for the best quality games Nintendo has ever made, so you can't then get upset that third parties make casual mini-game collections too ... that's something central to the entire idea of a casual console (simplistic, short burst gaming). 

If the system is tailored towards non-conventional styles of games like fitness games, educational games, mini-game partythons, you can't kinda have it both ways and say "well Nintendo should make a console specifically tailored for this audience", but then not want third parties to make games for that same audience. It would be like advertising a pool party, but getting upset when people show up with swim trunks and bikinis. 



Nintendo wants to bring back casuals.



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Soundwave said:
padib said:

There's casual games, and then there are low quality games. Nintendo makes high-quality casual games most of the time.

Ubisoft always makes low quality casual games.

Well no third party really consistently makes games as good as Nintendo, doesn't mean Ubi Soft released just crap. Zombi U, Rayman Legends, even Assassin's Creed III/IV were good to great games. If you like casual gaming, then I don't see how Just Dance is worse than Wii Music or Wii Party something.  

It's not like Wii Sports or Wii Fit or Wii Party or Mario & Sonic Olympics are winning any awards for the best quality games Nintendo has ever made, so you can't then get upset that third parties make casual mini-game collections too ... that's something central to the entire idea of a casual console (simplistic, short burst gaming). 

If the system is tailored towards non-conventional styles of games like fitness games, educational games, mini-game partythons, you can't kinda have it both ways and say "well Nintendo should make a console specifically tailored for this audience", but then not want third parties to make games for that same audience. It would be advertising a pool party, but getting upset when people show up with swim trunks and bikinis. 

Consistently good? Mario Party 10, Animal Crossing Amiibo and many more games recently from Nintendo have been far from good. Zombi U isn't a good game either, Watch Dogs is better than that game.



GOWTLOZ said:
Soundwave said:

Well no third party really consistently makes games as good as Nintendo, doesn't mean Ubi Soft released just crap. Zombi U, Rayman Legends, even Assassin's Creed III/IV were good to great games. If you like casual gaming, then I don't see how Just Dance is worse than Wii Music or Wii Party something.  

It's not like Wii Sports or Wii Fit or Wii Party or Mario & Sonic Olympics are winning any awards for the best quality games Nintendo has ever made, so you can't then get upset that third parties make casual mini-game collections too ... that's something central to the entire idea of a casual console (simplistic, short burst gaming). 

If the system is tailored towards non-conventional styles of games like fitness games, educational games, mini-game partythons, you can't kinda have it both ways and say "well Nintendo should make a console specifically tailored for this audience", but then not want third parties to make games for that same audience. It would be advertising a pool party, but getting upset when people show up with swim trunks and bikinis. 

Consistently good? Mario Party 10, Animal Crossing Amiibo and many more games recently from Nintendo have been far from good. Zombi U isn't a good game either, Watch Dogs is better than that game.

Uhhhh... Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi's Woolly World and another bunch of 3DS games were all good titles that Nintendo released in 2015. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Metallox said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Consistently good? Mario Party 10, Animal Crossing Amiibo and many more games recently from Nintendo have been far from good. Zombi U isn't a good game either, Watch Dogs is better than that game.

Uhhhh... Splatoon, Super Mario Maker, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi's Woolly World and another bunch of 3DS games were all good titles that Nintendo released in 2015. 

But the games I mentioned show that Nintendo doesn't consistently release good games which he said. Star Fox Zero is another one.

There is no company that does, so no need to say that Nintendo does when they don't do so.



Soundwave said:
RolStoppable said:

I just gave you the explanation you asked for. Why are you asking the same questions again?

So you want Nintendo to make a casual platform to the point of decrying things like dual analog, but you don't want third parties to make casual games for it. I dunno if I follow the logic.

I don't even recall Ubi Soft ever "shitting on Nintendo", they've supported them a fair deal, everyone including Nintendo bailed on the Wii U, can't really fault them for that, but even there they probably supported the system better than most. 

When people like Rol and I say we want a mass market console we don't mean we want shitty games. Wii Sports Resort, Mario Kart Wii and Mario Bros. Wii were high quality games and still attracted a casual audience, just like Tetris, Mario Land, etc. (heck, the original Pokemon was a casual game unless millions of 6-10 year olds count as hardcore gamers now). This picture illustrates the point: 

What we want is the dog. What Ubisoft makes is the play-thingy on the right side. That's what is upsetting him. Unfortunately casual gaming has become so synonymous on gaming forums with "low quality games" that people often think we want that as well. 



Louie said:
Soundwave said:

So you want Nintendo to make a casual platform to the point of decrying things like dual analog, but you don't want third parties to make casual games for it. I dunno if I follow the logic.

I don't even recall Ubi Soft ever "shitting on Nintendo", they've supported them a fair deal, everyone including Nintendo bailed on the Wii U, can't really fault them for that, but even there they probably supported the system better than most. 

When people like Rol and I say we want a mass market console we don't mean we want shitty games. Wii Sports Resort, Mario Kart Wii and Mario Bros. Wii were high quality games and still attracted a casual audience, just like Tetris, Mario Land, etc. (heck, the original Pokemon was a casual game unless millions of 6-10 year olds count as hardcore gamers now). This picture illustrates the point: 

What we want is the dog. What Ubisoft makes is the play-thingy on the right side. That's what is upsetting him. Unfortunately casual gaming has become so synonymous on gaming forums with "low quality games" that people often think we want that as well. 

Which casual games, even those from Nintendo, are held in the same esteem as "core" games. Even for Nintendo's casual games, nobody was exactly putting Brain Training or Wii Fit in the same category as Zelda or Mario Galaxy or lobby for Wii Party as GOTY. 

Casual games are not really ever going to have the higher tier "quality" because that would mean the play mechanics are complex and more challenging/time intensive, and that doesn't work in the context of casual gaming most of the time.