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Game developer Ubisoft released the first full-length trailer for its upcoming game Watch_Dogs 2, an open-world, action-adventure shooter set in the San Francisco Bay Area.

The original Watch_Dogs followed a (purposefully) nondescript white man named Aiden Pearce as he hacked and hunted down members of the organization that killed his niece. Watch_Dogs 2, on the other hand, focuses on Marcus Holloway, a young black man originally from Oakland who becomes a legendary hacker after being wrongfully jailed by a crime prediction algorithm.

In the hours after Ubisoft’s initial announcement, and over one million views on YouTube, fans of the franchise began to dissect the game ahead of Ubisoft’s official press conference at the Electronic Entertainment Expo next week. Many expressed concern about whether the game’s graphics would be up to snuff, while others noted some of the narrative elements the game seemed to have in common with the USA series Mr. Robot.

Over on the forums for Steam, a streaming service through which people will be able to play the game this fall, though, nearly every single conversation about Watch_Dogs 2 was about Marcus’ race. In the now-closed thread titled “Shoehorned black character why can’t we be Aiden?” hundreds of disgruntled fans vented their frustrations about how “implausible” it would be for a black person to live in San Francisco.

“Look at the demographics of San Fran it would be more plausible if I played as a homo or an asian than some random black dude,” user MentholFox complained. “Considering they make up 6% of the population in SanFran fam.”

Most of the 45 page-long thread is chock full of different spins on the idea that black people somehow don’t make sense as protagonists in general, let alone tech-savvy heroes in the Bay Area. Even though the initial thread was locked down by Steam’s moderators, a number of other, slightly less explicitly racist threads sprang up over night.

A discussion about the necessity of character customization began with a call to give players the ability to change Marcus’ race. Another thread—that insisted that it wasn’t trying to be racist—called for the death of “social justice warriors” fighting to make games politically correct. A handful of commenters made the very valid counterpoint that traditionally, gamers of color haven’t had the option to play as anything but white male characters and that Watch_Dogs 2 was a breath of fresh air.

“Sooooooo why is it that black people don’t care what character they’re playing, as long as the game is good and white people makes it seems like it the end of the world if the character is black,” user bigd, a black gamer, posted. “All this talk about gang bangers, don’t know how to use technology, thugs, and we are the problem.”

It’s true that San Francisco’s black population has been on a steady decline for the better part of the past 30 years. In 1970, black people accounted for just over 13% of the city’s residents. As of 2015, that number had dropped to just under 6%. But that’s part of what makes Marcus’ story so interesting.

Aiden Pearce was supposed to be the generic, cookie-cutter faceless white man we typically associate with expert hackers. That was his storyline and it’s done now. Marcus, by contrast, is the sort of social activist who seems tailor made for the age of #BlackLivesMatter.

It rings true that a black family living in the Bay Area might have been priced out of San Francisco and driven to settle down in Oakland and the idea of a young black man being profiled by a police pre-crime algorithm has very solid roots in reality. Racist gamers might not be on board with the story Marcus has to tell, but it’s exactly the sort story that more big-name game houses should be focusing more on.  

http://fusion.net/story/311853/watch-dogs-2-marcus/

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My Take: Honestly, it's a little surprising to me that people are actually mad about this. I think having an african american character will add a bit more depth and personality to the game, as the last protaganist was almost too boring to continue playing the game. We tend to always have white guys as our main characters in the gaming world, and it's getting slightly boring. I dont know why anyone would be upset over this.





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I love how stupid this conversation is, from both sides. Honestly the whole SJW and opposite of that have started to ruining game, if I actually read it.



 

There will always be people pissy about this sort of thing, but it doesn't mean it's the norm. Personally, I can see why people might be disappointed not to be the same character, but those people referencing the demographics of san francisco as if that makes the notion of a black hacker impossible are really reaching and, to be frank, beyond stupid.

My only worry is this could be akin to the current Ghostbusters movie... if this game doesn't sell well (and short of some really impressive gameplay footage I have zero interest in Watch_Dog as a whole), it will certainly be attributed to the protagonist being black. It's a shame the last Watch_Dog got off to such a fast start but fell in popularity with time, as that is the exact sort of scenario that will make meeting sales expectations difficult.

I suppose now I have to hope Watch Dogs 2 does well just so I don't have to hear about how racist we gamers are for weeks lol



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I've been saying this for a while, and I'll say it again. People who put all of this effort into fighting "political correctness" and "SJWs" are actually the bigger problem. You're not fighting for freedom of expression, you're being an asshole and you need to stop.



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Normchacho said:
I've been saying this for a while, and I'll say it again. People who put all of this effort into fighting "political correctness" and "SJWs" are actually the bigger problem. You're not fighting for freedom of expression, you're being an asshole and you need to stop.

I think it's entirely situational. The only people who seem like "assholes" to me are those who exclusively take one side or the other every time regardless of context, and they are equally shitty imo



Normchacho said:
I've been saying this for a while, and I'll say it again. People who put all of this effort into fighting "political correctness" and "SJWs" are actually the bigger problem. You're not fighting for freedom of expression, you're being an asshole and you need to stop.

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I actually think the design of the character looks good. I like the design of aiden pierce more, due to the long leather jacket and over all style of clothes. But this design looks pretty good too

What people should be upset about is that melee weapon .. geez it sucks.. could be fun to play with, but it certainly isn't practical lol



I agree that it would be horrible if the game suffered in sales for a reason as superficial as race. I wonder if the developers will react to this. However, It seems people don't mind black protaganists in GTA, but it seems like they have a problem when it's a different title.



Lord knows what will happen when Link is confirmed a female.



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