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Soundwave on 11 May 2016
RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

I never said Nintendo would stop making handheld games. It's just if their console is going to sell like complete shit anyway, much like are doing with smartphone games (to "bring" more people to the Nintendo brand), then having some Nintendo IP on say the Playstation could also introduce people to Nintendo IP and they then may buy the NX portable.

No one is selling hardware at huge losses these days, there's no need to unless you make a bunch of stupid design decisions like Nintendo did with the Wii U. The PS4 and XB1 are sold at a profit/cost. I remember even Iwata saying chipsets are not really a big issue for losses because they scale down in cost very quickly these days.

I didn't assert that you said Nintendo would stop making handheld games. Anyway, like usual, this is going to be a waste of time. You consider Nintendo's smartphone games to be on the same level as their hypothetical PS4 games, so what hope is there that something will get through to you? There's a significant difference between "all of Nintendo's premium content will only be available on Nintendo hardware" and "you won't need Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo's best games."

In case you didn't grasp it, I am out.

Nintendo's "best/premium content" games aren't on their best selling hardware, the console generally always gets the bigger gun games, that has never stopped the Nintendo portable from outselling the console by large margins. If the console is only going to sell 10-15 million units, you're basically really just a portable company.



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se7en7thre3 on 11 May 2016
Pavolink said:

"We're in constant communication with them and when they come to market something - and if it makes sense for us - we'll be there."

 

There needs to be open dialogue and work towards a solution.  This is good news IMO.



Cloudman on 13 May 2016

Sounds like they're doing the "wait and see" approach, which is about what I expected to do.



 

              

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Soundwave on 13 May 2016

I think honestly Nintendo needs to bite the bullet on this one, if NX is supposed to appeal to any kind of traditional demographic. I mean if its some kind of weird excercise console aimed at fat housewives, well ok then, forget it, but if its not something like that ...

I may not care for all of EA's games, but being locked out of FIFA, Madden NFL, and Star Wars in particular just isn't a good way to start a console generation.

Call EA, cut a deal, offer them incentives, let them make Mario Sports games (the Mario & Sonic Olympics shit is getting tired anyway) if they want. Just get it done.

If you are launch March 2017 then you could have at least FIFA for launch, and Madden 2018 could follow in summer and then Star Wars Battlefront 2 for holiday 2017 to coincide with Star Wars Ep. VIII.

EA initially didn't want to support the N64 either because of the cartridge format, but Howard Lincoln of NOA called EA and got the deal done and they agreed to make N64 games even an exclusive like Beetle Adventure Racing. Just get it done Nintendo, no excuses.



IamAwsome on 13 May 2016
Soundwave said:

I think honestly Nintendo needs to bite the bullet on this one, if NX is supposed to appeal to any kind of traditional demographic. I mean if its some kind of weird excercise console aimed at fat housewives, well ok then, forget it, but if its not something like that ...

I may not care for all of EA's games, but being locked out of FIFA, Madden NFL, and Star Wars in particular just isn't a good way to start a console generation.

Call EA, cut a deal, offer them incentives, let them make Mario Sports games (the Mario & Sonic Olympics shit is getting tired anyway) if they want. Just get it done.

If you are launch March 2017 then you could have at least FIFA for launch, and Madden 2018 could follow in summer and then Star Wars Battlefront 2 for holiday 2017 to coincide with Star Wars Ep. VIII.

EA initially didn't want to support the N64 either because of the cartridge format, but Howard Lincoln of NOA called EA and got the deal done and they agreed to make N64 games even an exclusive like Beetle Adventure Racing. Just get it done Nintendo, no excuses.

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V-r0cK on 13 May 2016

Do pretty much the same deal from this gen and last gen and the gen before. etc...



Game_God on 13 May 2016
pokoko said:
JRPGfan said:

Thats just it.... why is it like this?

With sony, 3rd party dont go "we ll wait and see how things turn out".

They support the system from the start (which in turn helps the system sell).

3rd party dont treat nintendo the same way.

Because the way Nintendo and Sony have historically treated third parties is like night and day.

Nintendo's history is well known.  There really is no reason to list everything from the past but, as an example, EA was once ready to go PC-only until Sega came along, simply because Nintendo was choking the life out of developers.  Yeah, that was a long time ago but some of that attitude still remains.

On the other hand, Sony and Microsoft treat third party developers and publishers like business partners.  They create an environment that is beneficial to them and they maintain constant communication.  It's not just about total installed base.  Sony and Microsoft have helped developers build consumer bases that follow their products and they've done it consistently over generations.  The problem for Nintendo is that they haven't done that so now third parties would have to start from scratch.  Is it worth it?  I'm willing to bet they've run a lot of projections and know far better than we would.

Imagine if console were malls and Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo were mall developers.

Nintendo builds a mall.  They tell retailers, "you can come rent a space now."  Most of the customers just come for the Nintendo brand store, though, and Nintendo doesn't give the retailers any more thought.

Sony and Microsoft don't just build a mall, though.  They talk to retailers about location, unit size, parking, lighting, and everything else first.  Then they build the mall.  After that, they run programs to pull in customers to the retailers, they help with the advertising, and they do their best to support the entire mall instead of just the Sony/Microsoft brand store.

Is that how Nintendo is going to be for the NX?  I don't know.  However, they would still have to fight all that history.  Nintendo would have to go above and beyond just to reach parity, if it's even possible at this point.  

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Darwinianevolution on 13 May 2016
Soundwave said:

I think honestly Nintendo needs to bite the bullet on this one, if NX is supposed to appeal to any kind of traditional demographic. I mean if its some kind of weird excercise console aimed at fat housewives, well ok then, forget it, but if its not something like that ...

I may not care for all of EA's games, but being locked out of FIFA, Madden NFL, and Star Wars in particular just isn't a good way to start a console generation.

Call EA, cut a deal, offer them incentives, let them make Mario Sports games (the Mario & Sonic Olympics shit is getting tired anyway) if they want. Just get it done.

If you are launch March 2017 then you could have at least FIFA for launch, and Madden 2018 could follow in summer and then Star Wars Battlefront 2 for holiday 2017 to coincide with Star Wars Ep. VIII.

EA initially didn't want to support the N64 either because of the cartridge format, but Howard Lincoln of NOA called EA and got the deal done and they agreed to make N64 games even an exclusive like Beetle Adventure Racing. Just get it done Nintendo, no excuses.

I think allowing bundles with non-Nintendo games would be enough to get EA sports and CoD, honestly. And those are the ones Nintendo needs the most with western publishers.



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pokoko on 13 May 2016
Game_God said:
pokoko said:

Because the way Nintendo and Sony have historically treated third parties is like night and day.

Nintendo's history is well known.  There really is no reason to list everything from the past but, as an example, EA was once ready to go PC-only until Sega came along, simply because Nintendo was choking the life out of developers.  Yeah, that was a long time ago but some of that attitude still remains.

On the other hand, Sony and Microsoft treat third party developers and publishers like business partners.  They create an environment that is beneficial to them and they maintain constant communication.  It's not just about total installed base.  Sony and Microsoft have helped developers build consumer bases that follow their products and they've done it consistently over generations.  The problem for Nintendo is that they haven't done that so now third parties would have to start from scratch.  Is it worth it?  I'm willing to bet they've run a lot of projections and know far better than we would.

Imagine if console were malls and Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo were mall developers.

Nintendo builds a mall.  They tell retailers, "you can come rent a space now."  Most of the customers just come for the Nintendo brand store, though, and Nintendo doesn't give the retailers any more thought.

Sony and Microsoft don't just build a mall, though.  They talk to retailers about location, unit size, parking, lighting, and everything else first.  Then they build the mall.  After that, they run programs to pull in customers to the retailers, they help with the advertising, and they do their best to support the entire mall instead of just the Sony/Microsoft brand store.

Is that how Nintendo is going to be for the NX?  I don't know.  However, they would still have to fight all that history.  Nintendo would have to go above and beyond just to reach parity, if it's even possible at this point.  

Nice bedtime story...

Nice counter argument.  Oh, wait, no.



IamAwsome on 13 May 2016
Darwinianevolution said:
Soundwave said:

I think honestly Nintendo needs to bite the bullet on this one, if NX is supposed to appeal to any kind of traditional demographic. I mean if its some kind of weird excercise console aimed at fat housewives, well ok then, forget it, but if its not something like that ...

I may not care for all of EA's games, but being locked out of FIFA, Madden NFL, and Star Wars in particular just isn't a good way to start a console generation.

Call EA, cut a deal, offer them incentives, let them make Mario Sports games (the Mario & Sonic Olympics shit is getting tired anyway) if they want. Just get it done.

If you are launch March 2017 then you could have at least FIFA for launch, and Madden 2018 could follow in summer and then Star Wars Battlefront 2 for holiday 2017 to coincide with Star Wars Ep. VIII.

EA initially didn't want to support the N64 either because of the cartridge format, but Howard Lincoln of NOA called EA and got the deal done and they agreed to make N64 games even an exclusive like Beetle Adventure Racing. Just get it done Nintendo, no excuses.

I think allowing bundles with non-Nintendo games would be enough to get EA sports and CoD, honestly. And those are the ones Nintendo needs the most with western publishers.

I think they already allow bundles. There was a ZombiU bundle for the Wii U. Plus, most AAA games that are bundle worthy these days are already locked up by Sony and Microsoft.