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No EA at launch could mean other Western third parties also take a "wait and see" approach.

Part of me then also wonders if the whatever it is about the system that's supposed to be the new "hook" isn't all that impressive. EA did meet with Nintendo last month apparently so they must have gone over what the system is about.



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Soundwave said:
No EA at launch could mean other Western third parties also take a "wait and see" approach.

I'm not really bothered by it since it's what I expected from the beginning.  I think most of us are of the assumption that Nintendo is going to be depending largely on themselves and some select Japansese 3rd parties in the first year or so of the NX's launch and letting western 3rd parties offer up token ports of year old games.



RolStoppable said:
It's telling how bad of a company EA is when their representative has to start off with one big pathetic lie.

Anyway, what this tells us is that Nintendo isn't sucking up to third parties at the moment. This is a good sign.

Yeah that Wii U third party situation sure is great.

If they can't get Western developer support, they are basically going to be a niche hardware maker, at least in terms of stationary home consoles.



RolStoppable said:
It's telling how bad of a company EA is when their representative has to start off with one big pathetic lie.

Anyway, what this tells us is that Nintendo isn't sucking up to third parties at the moment. This is a good sign.

Or this could be a bad sign as this is the same Wii U situation.



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If the case is though that they're going have a home console with little/no third party support like the Wii U does, then I think long term they may as well just cut a deal with Sony.

- Agree to put specific "big" titles on Playstation home consoles. Sony agrees to waives licensing fees so Nintendo gets full profit. Nintendo can make their own Playstation controller on which they keep the profit.

- Sony in return agrees to support Nintendo portable consoles with software titles and encouraging third party partners.

Because what then really is the point of a Nintendo console if its just going to play Nintendo games? Nintendo receives no royalty fee revenue from developers so the console is basically just there for Nintendo games, might as well then just allow the games to be distributed for a wide audience so long as Sony doesn't charge them licensing fees.

There's no point in having a console that's only going to sell 10-15 million units.



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RolStoppable said:
It's telling how bad of a company EA is when their representative has to start off with one big pathetic lie.

Anyway, what this tells us is that Nintendo isn't sucking up to third parties at the moment. This is a good sign.

Isn't sucking up?  Is this 1992? It tells us that the NX is not on any western 3rd parties radar and why would it?  Nintendo can't even make money on two consoles they have a monopoly on these past four years.



So unless it does well, they won't support it

Nintendo really needs to take some notes



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Soundwave said:

If the case is though that they're going have a home console with little/no third party support like the Wii U does, then I think long term they may as well just cut a deal with Sony.

- Agree to put specific "big" titles on Playstation home consoles. Sony agrees to waives licensing fees so Nintendo gets full profit. Nintendo can make their own Playstation controller on which they keep the profit.

- Sony in return agrees to support Nintendo portable consoles with software titles and encouraging third party partners.

Because what then really is the point of a Nintendo console if its just going to play Nintendo games? Nintendo receives no royalty fee revenue from developers so the console is basically just there for Nintendo games, might as well then just allow the games to be distributed for a wide audience so long as Sony doesn't charge them licensing fees.

There's no point in having a console that's only going to sell 10-15 million units.

Just because of no wii name and not that @@ tablet controller ( or at least not a tablet controller  like wii u's tablet controller) which made the wii u overpriced/expensive for people and Nintendo, and nintendo unable to cut its price.... NX shouldl sell more than wii u! ( Of course,  if current wii u owners aren't infuriated, with  the indignified funeral of wii u by Nintendo, they are 13m and counting, you wouldn't like to lose even them)

 

 

Anyway, too much talk about sales ( non-existant about profits) ! We don't know what NX is... After, the new information  what do you think that it is? Will it have a handheld component? (Maybe Not,  because Kimishima noted that NX won't affect 3ds sales and with the wii u's death they can focus to 3ds ?)

Apropos, would you like Nintendo to sell 80m NX but burn 5 billion?



RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

If the case is though that they're going have a home console with little/no third party support like the Wii U does, then I think long term they may as well just cut a deal with Sony.

- Agree to put specific "big" titles on Playstation home consoles. Sony agrees to waives licensing fees so Nintendo gets full profit. Nintendo can make their own Playstation controller on which they keep the profit.

- Sony in return agrees to support Nintendo portable consoles with software titles and encouraging third party partners.

Because what then really is the point of a Nintendo console if its just going to play Nintendo games? Nintendo receives no royalty fee revenue from developers so the console is basically just there for Nintendo games, might as well then just allow the games to be distributed for a wide audience so long as Sony doesn't charge them licensing fees.

There's no point in having a console that's only going to sell 10-15 million units.

This reminds me of a recent post of yours where you stated that the whole point of consoles is to collect royalty fees from third parties. You did some maths (something along the lines of 50 third party games selling an average of 700k units) and came up with the result of $280m per year. Do you know what else amounts to $280m? A Nintendo game that sells ~10m copies. Suddenly royalty fees don't look that awesome anymore, because Nintendo sells a lot more than 10m first party games per year.

IIRC a NeoGAF thread had cumulated data for the percentage of Nintendo's revenue that comes from third party royalty fees. It has been quite consistently between 5-7% throughout the years. This means it's more of a bonus rather than the main reason to make a console.

Your 10-15m consoles sold reasoning has no merit when Nintendo's future is going to be more like Super Smash Bros. 4, a game that is available on more than one system.

Train wreck said:

Isn't sucking up?  Is this 1992? It tells us that the NX is not on any western 3rd parties radar and why would it?  Nintendo can't even make money on two consoles they have a monopoly on these past four years.

If NX has no expensive hardware features that are rejected by the market, then Nintendo won't be in a situation where they have to sell hardware at a loss. That in turn is going to improve Nintendo's bottom line significantly over the Wii U/3DS era, even if overall hard- and software sales would be the same in both generations.

Rol... That comment, how accurate (You dispensed me from me saying the same thing)! Υou're so nice where you're serious! ;)



We all know what that means...