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Forums - Movies & TV - Batman Vs Superman is at 872.66 million WW- Final update, with some DVD/Blu-Ray sale charts

 

Rating?

10 2 6.67%
 
9 3 10.00%
 
8 9 30.00%
 
7 3 10.00%
 
6 3 10.00%
 
5 1 3.33%
 
4 3 10.00%
 
3 2 6.67%
 
2-1 2 6.67%
 
See results 2 6.67%
 
Total:30

watched it last night and it was amazing, great movie.



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spurgeonryan said:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=superman2015.htm

700 million.

They are not changing their mind about the universe. Sure it fell short, but they are not ignoring 900 million dollars or more in gross. Remember that even the stellar last two batman movies just barely passed a billion. The last Superman did not. The marvel universe is better, plain and simple. They have much bigger heroes and villains. D.C. will not be as big. They may change the director and producer, but that is it. It is not all doom and gloom.

Someone said reboot? You crazy! Bother batman and superman just got reboot!

Well, that was with lower ticket prices, only one of the two huge Superheroes (probably the best known with Spider-Man) and the Chinese market not so huge (I believe The Dark Knight didn't even release there). If these movies would release in 2016 they would maybe even reach $1.5bn and if BvsS would be liked by more peeps, it would also reach it. 

If Deadpool would have released in China and Japan, BvsS would beat Deadpool only marginal (if even that, depends how successful Deadpool would be there) This is just laughable if you think about it. 



It's holding strong in China. And already passed Deadpool here in Brazil and is closing in SW TFA.

It will beat the 1bi mark WW.



Dark_Feanor said:
It's holding strong in China. And already passed Deadpool here in Brazil and is closing in SW TFA.

It will beat the 1bi mark WW.

Lol where did you read its holding strong in China, it got beat by Zootopia wich was in like its 4th week in China, its rather dead in China already. Pretty much the only place in the world it held well from one week to the other was here on  Brazil for whatever reason, ppl here seen to have liked the movie wich is crazy since it is a terrible constructed movie. Theres a very low probability BvS pass 1B acording to pretty much every Box Ofice analyst out there and that is just atrocious for a movie this big that has the 2 most popular super heroes on the planet as it centerpiece.



DakonBlackblade said:
Dark_Feanor said:
It's holding strong in China. And already passed Deadpool here in Brazil and is closing in SW TFA.

It will beat the 1bi mark WW.

Lol where did you read its holding strong in China, it got beat by Zootopia wich was in like its 4th week in China, its rather dead in China already. Pretty much the only place in the world it held well from one week to the other was here on  Brazil for whatever reason, here seen to have liked the movie wich is crazy since it is a terrible constructed movie. Theres a very low probability BvS pass 1B acording to pretty much every Box Ofice analyst out there and that is just atrocious for a movie this big that ahs the 2 most popular super heroes on the planet as it centerpiece.

96mi in two weeks acording to Boxoffice Mojo. It can make another 100mi before Civil War gets out.

 

I belive it will follow Ironman 3 trajectory. 



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$700m is quite a ways from the $1bn it was projected to have needed for a positive DCEU launch.

Yes, Man of Steel was the first chapter, but DoJ is the first DC film to introduce the MCU concept of serialized films with an ensemble cast.

I would personally like to see DoJ hit that mark as I really enjoyed it and intend to see it again on IMAX 3D, but let's face it; it was no Avengers as far as making the positive impact its handlers intended. I don't see it happening, but WB will forge ahead with the DCEU and will likely be receptive to the criticism in making adjustments.

Part of me wants to say that so many of the complaints centered around the plot being overly complex and the overall tone of the film completely lacking in humor, making it the polar opposite of the beloved MCU.

If so, it should be interesting to see the reception of Suicide Squad which appears to focus on offbeat humor, a smaller world and simpler plot with characters that have simpler motivations.



Dark_Feanor said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Lol where did you read its holding strong in China, it got beat by Zootopia wich was in like its 4th week in China, its rather dead in China already. Pretty much the only place in the world it held well from one week to the other was here on  Brazil for whatever reason, here seen to have liked the movie wich is crazy since it is a terrible constructed movie. Theres a very low probability BvS pass 1B acording to pretty much every Box Ofice analyst out there and that is just atrocious for a movie this big that ahs the 2 most popular super heroes on the planet as it centerpiece.

96mi in two weeks acording to Boxoffice Mojo. It can make another 100mi before Civil War gets out.

 

I belive it will follow Ironman 3 trajectory. 

Thats not how BO work. The original projections for China were 200M, after its second week it got lowered to 100-120M. It saw a colossal drop from week 1 to 2 in China (more so than it saw on the rest of the world, and the drop was massive all around). It won't make another 20M let alone 100M on China, as I said its doing lower numbers there than Zootopia wich is a movie released well before BvS. Also its doing lower numbers than Iron Men 3 everywhere (but Brazil, because reasons) since ever, it opened lower dropped faster and is still dropping faster.

This movie unlike most blockbusters opened on the same day on every market in the world so its extremely frontloaded (more so than blockbusters usualy are). It has a shot at 1 billion but thats it, its not going anywhere near IM3. Its gona make a profit for sure but no matter how you cut it the profit was heavilly influenciated by the bad reviews and word of mouth and is much lower than the studio and investors wanted it to be. WB has already shuffled its DC movies release dates around, they anounced 2 new dates and brought the WW movie foward, ppl are speculating this means they wont do JL when they originaly planed to, instead they'll have a Batman solo movie on its date and do the JL movie on one of the newer dates they anounced. In other wordsWB is listening to the critics that said they tried to cram too much into a single movie and are going to give the DCCU time to mature before throwing a bunch of heroes together again.



DakonBlackblade said:
Dark_Feanor said:

96mi in two weeks acording to Boxoffice Mojo. It can make another 100mi before Civil War gets out.

 

I belive it will follow Ironman 3 trajectory. 

Thats not how BO work. The original projections for China were 200M, after its second week it got lowered to 100-120M. It saw a colossal drop from week 1 to 2 in China (more so than it saw on the rest of the world, and the drop was massive all around). It won't make another 20M let alone 100M on China, as I said its doing lower numbers there than Zootopia wich is a movie released well before BvS. Also its doing lower numbers than Iron Men 3 everywhere (but Brazil, because reasons) since ever, it opened lower dropped faster and is still dropping faster.

This movie unlike most blockbusters opened on the same day on every market in the world so its extremely frontloaded (more so than blockbusters usualy are). It has a shot at 1 billion but thats it, its not going anywhere near IM3. Its gona make a profit for sure but no matter how you cut it the profit was heavilly influenciated by the bad reviews and word of mouth and is much lower than the studio and investors wanted it to be. WB has already shuffled its DC movies release dates around, they anounced 2 new dates and brought the WW movie foward, ppl are speculating this means they wont do JL when they originaly planed to, instead they'll have a Batman solo movie on its date and do the JL movie on one of the newer dates they anounced. In other wordsWB is listening to the critics that said they tried to cram too much into a single movie and are going to give the DCCU time to mature before throwing a bunch of heroes together again..

Movies have a long tail gross distribution over time. 

 

In the USA Block busters drop 50-60% the first few weeks then 40% then 30% then it's so low it dosent matter. 

 

Aclaimed movies can hold stronger but only few pull an Avatar kind of show. Low burners are mostly animations or well stabilished franchises like James Bond.

 

In China BvS made 40mi after the first week. I cant see that is that catastrofic. Can't it get another 50mi in the next couple of months?

 

Over seas was another 100mi week it might do more than Zootopia even with a 300mi vs 150 mi in China.

 

Batman brand is that strong WW

 It is the USA Boxoffice that should be Warner concern.

 



Dark_Feanor said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Thats not how BO work. The original projections for China were 200M, after its second week it got lowered to 100-120M. It saw a colossal drop from week 1 to 2 in China (more so than it saw on the rest of the world, and the drop was massive all around). It won't make another 20M let alone 100M on China, as I said its doing lower numbers there than Zootopia wich is a movie released well before BvS. Also its doing lower numbers than Iron Men 3 everywhere (but Brazil, because reasons) since ever, it opened lower dropped faster and is still dropping faster.

This movie unlike most blockbusters opened on the same day on every market in the world so its extremely frontloaded (more so than blockbusters usualy are). It has a shot at 1 billion but thats it, its not going anywhere near IM3. Its gona make a profit for sure but no matter how you cut it the profit was heavilly influenciated by the bad reviews and word of mouth and is much lower than the studio and investors wanted it to be. WB has already shuffled its DC movies release dates around, they anounced 2 new dates and brought the WW movie foward, ppl are speculating this means they wont do JL when they originaly planed to, instead they'll have a Batman solo movie on its date and do the JL movie on one of the newer dates they anounced. In other wordsWB is listening to the critics that said they tried to cram too much into a single movie and are going to give the DCCU time to mature before throwing a bunch of heroes together again..

Movies have a long tail gross distribution over time. 

 

In the USA Block busters drop 50-60% the first few weeks then 40% then 30% then it's so low it dosent matter. 

 

Aclaimed movies can hold stronger but only few pull an Avatar kind of show. Low burners are mostly animations or well stabilished franchises like James Bond.

 

In China BvS made 40mi after the first week. I cant see that is that catastrofic. Can't it get another 50mi in the next couple of months?

 

Over seas was another 100mi week it might do more than Zootopia even with a 300mi vs 150 mi in China.

 

Batman brand is that strong WW

 It is the USA Boxoffice that should be Warner concern.

 

Youre still not following, thats definetly not how Box Office work. Here read this http://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2016/04/06/was-the-400-million-warner-bros-paid-for-batman-v-superman-a-good-investment/#5294a97b7d67. As the article clearly states (and make very obvious via an easy to follow table) BvS is a financial sucess but only a moderate one, wich is definetly not what Warner and DC wanted it to be. Also BvS dropped 69% on its second weak on the USA that is the second bigest drop of a Super Hero picture ever (only Catwoman got it worse), so no that is not normal, thats bad. 

And again, about China the movie is doing worse than Zootopia as in it grossed less in a week, Im not talking about absolute terms, Im talking about BvS week 2 x Zootopia Week 4, Zootopia beat BvS (had a better week). That is the definition of a catastrophic drop , for a movie that big be beaten by a 4 weeks old movie onits second week its realy terrible. Also China has the release of multiple Chinese movies this next couple of weeks and Hollywood movies only stay in screens there for 4 weeks, law forbids the cinemas to keep them screening for longer than that. In other words to make 200M there BvS would have to gross 110M in 2 weeks after having only grossed 90M in its first 2, that is beyond impossible. The movie has seen similar drops in other big markets and there are reports of cinemas reducing the numbers of screening already across the globe. Brazil is basicaly the one place its having a realy massive sucess, the problem is our Box Office only amounts to like 30-40M in the end. It helps but this one market alone isnt gona amount for much in the end.



spurgeonryan said:
crissindahouse said:

Well, that was with lower ticket prices, only one of the two huge Superheroes (probably the best known with Spider-Man) and the Chinese market not so huge (I believe The Dark Knight didn't even release there). If these movies would release in 2016 they would maybe even reach $1.5bn and if BvsS would be liked by more peeps, it would also reach it. 

If Deadpool would have released in China and Japan, BvsS would beat Deadpool only marginal (if even that, depends how successful Deadpool would be there) This is just laughable if you think about it. 

Well TDKR was only a few years ago. Prices are not much different since then. But I get your point.

Prices didn't increase that much since TDKR but they increased and the Chinese market expoded since then (it's now like 4x bigger as it was when TDKR released). Not sure about the market in South America, Africa or other Asian countries but maybe there is also strong growth.

Thing is, reaching $1bn  in 2016 is not a huge achievement compared to reaching it some years ago. People said that BvsS would reach $1bn and how that would make it one of the 25 most successful movies of all time and how great it is but I find this discussion useless when I think about how many more movies would be at $1bn if they would release in 2016 and not years ago without releasing in a now huge Chinese market, with lower ticket prices and maybe without or at least with weaker other markets. 

Now BvsS will probably not even reach the top 30 of all time even with the help of China, Batman, Superman, a huge marketing budget and so on...to me this looks bad and not good.