No, actually you didn't say why it was better. I asked before, are you proposing having games made for PS Now that won't play on the normal PS4?

Talk about splitting the userbase... if you'd think it would be bad to have a premium version of the console anyone can buy, imagine how it would be to have the 'premium' version behind a paywall only accessible to those with A- excelent internet connection and B- close enough distance to the servers to minimize the lag impact.

I'm sorry, I don't see how your idea is either better or more likely

* hardware revsions split the user base - fact.

* Hardware revisions will cause confusion outside of the hardcore user base.

* In a market sold on uniform hardware, hardware revsions will cause the public to lose trust in Sony.

* To newer PS4 owners, they are going to be really fucked off when they find that even though they just spent £250 on a PS4, had the waited a bit longer they could of had a much more powerful version.  This is not expected in the console world, where machines are expected to have a certain life span.  With phones its not so bad, because the upgrades are free.  With consoles people are going to be pissed off with Sony, and that's not good for them.  If Sony decide to going down this path, then I can see a lot of people that use PS4 as their primary machine, jumping ship to Nintendo.

These are the four things that will happen should a more powerful PS4 get released.  Your telling me that all of this is better than releasing disc games as normal but including a higher spec version of the game as a streamed version?  Either as a cross buy or a pay wall?  There is no way on earth that adding a PS Now option is WORSE than going down the new hardware road.  Only a total mad man would think otherwise.

You need to work on some personal stuff if you feel inferior because someone else as a more powerful playstation.

It will not really split the user base, it's will just be a graphical upgrade. The Dsi didn't split the user base, the New 3DS didn't either, the PS4K won't. Now if they are dumb and stop support the PS4 as much, then they'll create a split. But if they do that, it's not just an upgraded machine, it will become a new system. So that defeat the purpose.

So just stop with all this panick and "what ifs" it's will be the same system, the same games, that just runs better at higher resolution. Nothing else

I think all of the possible downsides you are bringing up are valid for both new hardware revision as well as for making exclusive higher performing games on ps now. I think that would actually be a lot worse because some people would have no option at all to get those games (slower connections, far from the servers, etc). We are talking purely hypothetically here so it won't amount to much anyway.

I see you really seem to enjoy the PS Now service and that's all good, but in my mind PS Now is not even a service that should be aimed at playstation owners. It makes so much more sense to open it up for people who have no playstation but would like to play games every once in a while. Bring it to Smart TVs, bring it to tablets, to low power laptops, etc.

What sense would it make to playstation fans that some random guy that doesn't even own a playstation to be playing a better version of uncharted than all the people who were there 1st day supporting the hardware?

It seems like you need to pull back and get some perspective on this whole thing. Again, I pointed out the very possible problems with a new upgraded model of the PS4 but I also included my views in how Sony could solve those problems.

I find it a dead mistake to actually split the userbase by having some games exclusive to some people, and the same goes for people who would like the better model should be able to trade in the older one with good value.

Solving those 2 issues I believe everyone (or almost everyone) would be happy.

Another thing you didn't address is the VR side of it which Sony is banking a whole lot. Latency is a decisive factor in VR and there's 0% chance PS Now could power a VR game without people throwing up after 3/5 minutes.

Please, go back to my 2nd post in this thread and tell me if you disagree with any of the points I made and why.

Hey, it's a time for even the wildest theories!
You are most probably wrong with this, though. I think we all should just wait until the new ps4 is revealed. Sony is doing it, that's more a fact now than anything, and I feel that many theories just come up because people are uncertain to what exactly it is but I think that people should not be worried as Sony isn't dumb to say Fuck you to existing customers.

It's better than the idea of PS4.5 or PS4K.

I am almost certain the upgrades to PS4 will not affect games only media but hypothetically if they was considering upgraded hardware vs your ps now solution I disagree with PS4 now a better solution.

With a upgraded ps4 you could still release a disc games as normal. Everyone would buy the same disc and for those with the more powerful ps4 it would simply download a patch that contain higher resolution textures etc.

You already have to download day one patches on most disc games anyway before playing.

This would cure most confusion because all disc games work the same, for some it just look better.

With the PS now solution you have to pay monthly forever if you want to see the games at a higher resolution. With the revise hardware solution it a onetime fee and then you download a few patches and you set for life. Also if you live in a location with poor internet it gives you an option.

Split userbase is less of an issue assuming all games work on all PS4, the only different is the graphics. As long as any game you buy simply works in your ps4 regardless of the version most people just not going to care. If they cared that much about graphics they would of gotten a PC.

There a major problem if it affect game-play or what games you can play. If it only affect graphics there be very little confusion because there nothing extra to consider or worry about when buying games.

I'd buy the new iteration if it had stronger innards. I also wouldn't get upset like the rest of you... it's no different than me buying a S6 rather than waiting a year for the S7 (except 3-4 year gaps), and my gen 1 ps4 can still play the same games at a slightly weaker state.

Hell, I'd keep my gen 1 just to keep it in a room with my 1080p plasma.

No one is talking about exclusives or a literally split userbase. PS4 games work on PS4/PS4k. But just like a powerful PC, if you have a PS4k, you can run the games at higher settings then they would run on PS4. Thats all anyone is talking about. It isn't that confusing for anyone and will not lead to any kind of disaster. People deal with smart phone upgrades on a yearly basis and we think they'll have a hard time figuring out 2 different models of the PS4 which run exactly the same games? DId the N3DS (which actually had an exclusive) end up to be a disaster?

I do think PSNow  will stream PS4k versions of games ONCE it actually starts streaming current gen games, but Its certainly not what this rumour is discussing. Putting all that money (billions) into a new version of the PS4 hardware just to stream it over the internet would loose sony a ton of money. They need to sell it up front and make their cash back. Beyond that the stream quality in this day and age will be a complete variable amongst the population and it'd render the graphical/resolution upgrades kind of pointless for many.

Interest thought but not realistic or favourable

Ps now downgrades to 720p@30 due to input lag and bandwidth... streaming 4k games would be horrible at this point in time.