DevilRising said: So.....freedom of speech isn't a thing anymore? I don't like people being dickholes anymore than anyone else. But that's part of the free speech package, is that OTHER assholes are also allowed to say whatever they want. The "so long as they're not hurting anyone" bit is a blurry line, and not always easy to sus out. But regardless which side you stand on this......America is ridiculous. Suing someone for MILLIONS of dollars, far far more than your little Steam games will ever make, because they and their dickhole fans make comments that upset you? Harassment I get. And that shit needs to stop. Bullying is not okay, if you don't like something, then fuck off and go like something else. But what does suing for MILLIONS of dollars, or any dollar amount really, actually accomplish? I've always wondered this. Especially with truly fucked up cases like lawsuits over deaths. Like......is getting MILLIONS of dollars, going to bring your loved one back from the dead? Or is it just that suddenly being rich will help you find "piece of mind"? Because to me, there is no "justice" being attained by basically getting rich off of the death of someone you supposedly cared about. If anything, it seems like you're taking advantage of the situation and dishonoring their memory. *shrug* |
A few things.
1) The plaintiff in a lawsuit can request whatever amount they please: no one but the plaintiff checks the lawsuit before it is filed, and the clerk who accepts it merely looks to confirm that it contains the required materials. Disputing the number is up to the defendant and/or court. Just because you sue for millions, it does not mean you will ever sniff that amount.
2) There are two kinds of lawsuits over the death of a loved one: survivor lawsuits and wrongful death lawsuits. Both were created by statute relatively recently to address problems and inconsistencies which existed without their creation.
The purpose of the wrongful death suit is to compensate the survivors for the lost income which the loved one would have provided, plus expenses incurred due to the death, less the amount they would have incurred had they continued to live. Simply put, all of tort law is intended to financially compensate a victim for another's wrongful actions, and the wrongful death suit was created because the family of a breadwinner should not be worse off financially due to the wrong committed by the tortfeasor.
As an aside, much of the work behind reaching these numbers is already done by actuaries: when someone says you can't put a value on human life, they are factually incorrect, as there is an entire profession which focuses on doing just that. For the record, there is a dollar value placed on individual organs, extremities, digits, and other body parts as well, with said value differing based on the person's age, race, gender, profession, education, health, and several other variables.
In a surival suit, the plaintiff is stepping into the shoes of the deceased to recover the value of the deceased's expenses as a result of the death, as well as things like pain and suffering which the deceased could have sued for had he lived. The purpose of the survival lawsuit appears to be primarily intended to not let a killer off the hook for the victim's losses simply because the victim died instead of clinging to life: you don't really want to reward the tortfeasor simply for doing too good a job in hurting someone, after all. It thus simply lets the family assert the same claims that the deceased could have had the tortfeasor not been as successful in hurting the deceased.
elektranine said:
noname2200 said:
Alright, you've got my attention. State your case for why these particular videos are not fair use.
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I am not doing your work for you but here is a link of interest:
http://copyright.cornell.edu/policies/docs/Fair_Use_Checklist.pdf
You will see that the video in question fails almost all the tests for fair use.
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As a licensed attorney I have already done the work of researching fair use law, and beyond the mere scope of an online checklist at that, thank you.
I am simpy inviting you to apply the law to the facts herein, as my admittedly limited understanding of the facts leads me - and apparently Digital Homicide as well, based on its failure to allege copyright violations in this suit - to draw the opposite opinion as you.
So again: you've got my attention. State your case for why these particular videos are not fair use. I am seriously open to argument and willing to be persuaded.