Yup. I have checked some other shop sites and PSVR is ranked high everywhere.

I tried to do a research about Vive, but I dont think " Reddit " is a video game retailer.

So far, the data is PS VR >Vive.

So far the data is: Vive and Oculus Rift > PS VR... and that won't change before October.

PS VR ain't selling before its launch, it is only collecting preorders until then.

I thought this thread was dead, but whatever.

You are still missing the point, or discusing something that is in no way the same. All thouse games you mentioned, only star citizen is a new IP and has VR. You guys keep trying to say that Im saying PC has and wont have exclusives. Not What Im saying. Im saying is that VR is so new with basicly zero units in peoples hands, that developers will put everything on every platform just to garantee it will sell. Even the people from ocooulous and valve said it themselfs in an article not to long ago, neiither will have any exxclusive games. Its just a bad idea this early on a new super expensive product. But on the other hand, sony has its own platform and own device and own developers so it will get its own eclusive games.

Keep comparing VR to other old devices. It wont make any sense cuz its never the same, diferent product, diferent focus, diferent crowd, diferent age. 

You still haven't shown me any pictures.

Besides the res of The Order 1886 doesn't sacrifice the pixel density. the 16bit era didn't do this.. (wtf are you talking about)

I have played Crysis 3 on max and yes it looks great but the fidelity of the character models, lighting and shadow effects are just not as good. Neither are the z-buffer effects. Crysis 3, ROTR, QB and Star Citizen does not have anything that looks as CGI as the picture above does.

Graphics fidelity is the most important thing in determining how good the graphics are. Video game graphics is a term used to describe the various techniques used to display video games. 

"and a FPS of less then 30 just so it can look that good??."

Besides my point was just that consoles are not behind when they can produce visuals like the ones above. PC needs to prove (with pictures please) how dominant it is in graphics because so far Crysis 3 doesn't show me anything that actually looks more CGI (ie. better) than The Order 1886 or Uncharted 4 does.

The biggest problem with VR on the PC is the hardware requirements.

GTX 970 and i5 4590 is nowhere near the average gaming PC set up.

While there's no argument that VR on PC should provide a better experience from a technical standpoint, without even delving into the differences between the VR hardware systems themselves (PS VR is not the best in this department), the reality is that it is an even smaller niche market than the $499 PS VR kit for current PS4 owners.

I say PS VR.

Heard of theater mode on PSVR? Lets you put any game on VR, Albeit just a gyant screen only, but its some support. The only games that will benefict from VR is first person games and trust me, no dev is dumb enough to no go the extra mile to just make it optional. But as always, this  is one of the big PC Master race braging rights, Mods. But again, mods arent that big of a bonus cus they usually alter a game way long after a game is relevant. 

But I know its pointless discussing this with you, cuz I know how this will go. Everyone will show you how things have gone in the past, of consoles always receiving better support because they are cheaper even though pc's are more powerfull, you will ignore it, whiile at the same time pointing out past consoles and products that failed, but for you its one way. Ill just say it again, it does not matter how much bettter it is on PC, it has always been better on pc, but also way more expensive and the mass market does not adopt PC for this reason. Gaming will always be more accecible on consoles, therefore get more support.

Any game? Or only any PS4 game?

Heard of theater mode / virtual desktop on PC VR? It lets you put any PC game of several decades on a giant screen, probably also PS4 games (remote play), XBO games (Xbox streaming from XBO to PC), XBO-compatible 360-games (Xbox streaming from XBO to PC), Android games (BlueStacks) and older console/handheld games (emulators). When PS Now comes to PC, PS3 games should also be possible.

So the theater mode of PC VR solutions seems to be a bit more versatile than the theater mode of PSVR. ;)

All i asked was for you to show me a PC game that looked more CGI.

You lied about the framerate... and now you are lying about The Order 1886 being closed. There are several open environments. 

I thought the rocket launcher, sniper and just in general most shooting sections were fairly commonly known. 

PC obviously.

VR should not be exclusively classified as a gaming experience. PSVR will get mostly game-type VR-software but overall PC wins hands down, it's not even a contest. People need to forget the games and look at the bigger picture.