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Lauster said:
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My simple question to those who would is "Do you play the game or the Box?*
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My simple question to you is "Do you prefer to buy a product, or a service that you don't control ?"
If your Steam account is closed (for whatever reason, like not accepting a new EULA for example) you loose all your games.
Note : link redirect to a french site, so there is this that is not the same story but seems to have the same result.
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Iv had my Steam account since 2004, it has been more relyable then any console purchase i have made. All my games are playable today with free updates in 2016.
Look at the benefits
My games cant get lost, Stolen, Damaged, my home storage space increases, i dont have to put the disk in the machine to play it, and i can go anywhere around the world and not have to worry about taking my games with me.
Disadvantages
That assumption electricity no longer exists.
Sorry but iv been collecting games since the 80s. I have no room or the patients with phyical games anymore. Its no longer needed.
I game because i want entertainment, not so i can look at a box on my shelf knowing that its mine forever when in fact even phyical copy of games can still be taken away. I own many CD based games that no longer have support though a server. What if Live or PSN go down and you own 500 phyical games and you need a day one patch?
Exacty.
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Cool story bro, but you miss the point if you think that people that doesn't want the digital-only is just for a "look at a box on my shelf" purpose.
I collect games since the 80s too, still not a problem for me, but I can understand your point about the space occupied.
I wish you to never have problem with the society of the man on your avatar.
In your 500 physical games, lets say there are only 20 that are unplayable without their day one patch ? Still better to have 480 games playable than none if your Steam account is closed, isn't it ?
Exactly.
But it's more a DRM problem than a digital problem.
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There is no argument, Digital is a far more superiour way to buy and play your games. I have had more console and disk problems with my games then i ever did with digital. Your basing your argument around "What if Steam shuts down" lol honestly you really think they will shut down? If you were right another company will pick it up and continue it. Its a major cash grab.
Your next gen console relies on the internet, most of your games require internet to play and to download the day one patches. Without PSN or Live your console is a sitting brick.
Have you notice that the game box you have has nothing in it? The console only needs the disk to prove you purchased it becasue the stupid gaming community we have today hated on DRM so now we are forced to put a plastic disk in the plastic box to give the tick of approval. Buying phyiscal is a complete waste of resources and the sooner we go 100% digital the sooner we will have Steam priced games. The longer companies have to supply disks the more we will pay for digital because they want to sell you the disks first becasue again "Stupid community"
Its not like the past where you can look at your N64 collection and go "I own those games" espeacilly with the formats we game on today its only a cover nothing else. I dont even think my PS1 or NES even work today due to there age, so i have 500+ unplayable games because i have no other way to play them. But you would rather that then have a service that looks after your games for you. Imagine you have a house fire? You lose all your games, but if you have them online there untouchable and always ready to download.
Digital is also the best form of backwards compatiablity, you dont need to own multiple types of hardware and to hope to god your old consoles still work or worse, hoping the disks/cartridges still read.
Sure you cant sell digital but you can always sell your account. I personally dont buy games to sell them.
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Theres so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin. Steam has steam prices because steam has competition - Amazon, gog, humble, origin etc. all over the exact same games that can be played on the same piece of hardware. Sony has no competition in the marketplace for PS4 games. MS has no competition in the marketplace for X1 games. You're not going to see steam-style prices so long as there is only an MS marketplace on your xbox to buy xbox games. They have no reason to.
Your PS1 and N64 games should work just fine if you took care of them. I still play my PS1 and dreamcast games all the time, and some of those games are 18 years old. Why wouldn't they work? People are still playing their NES games from 1985.
As for backwards compatibility, just try getting the original GTA working on Windows 10. Tell me how much fun of an experience that is if you get it to work as its supposed to.
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*Your PS1 and N64 games should work just fine if you took care of them. *
Digital you dont have to take care of them. Not everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, people have lost there belongings or even there houses. What happens then? Do you get a refund on all your games you lost to your house fire? No, can you redownload them if there digital? Yes.
I own Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City, 3, 4 and 5 on Steam and they all work perfectly fine on my 55inch TV in full screen... i didnt even need to buy a remastered edition to play it in full.
Hardware doesnt last forever , any body could tell you that, unless you have it sealed in an air tight, dust free Nasa storage room its going to not work one day. Same goes for disks and formats.
There are no benefits anymore having the games on disks, infact you get more disadvatages having it on disk then digital. The sooner the gaming community move on the better the industry becomes.
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There are plenty of advantages to havings games on discs. Being able to re-sell them being a major one, being able to lend them to friends and family being another. Owning a copy of something that may in fact increase in price over time is yet another. Nevermind whatever value there is in having a game on your shelf rather than a hard drive if you see any in that.
You might not see those benefits as important to you, but that doesn't mean they're not important to others. In fact they might be important to the majority of console gamers.
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Those benefits dont benefit the gamer who wants to play games. Your talking on those who want to collect or sell games. I went into a games shop wanting to trade in my Darks Souls 2 Collectors games, they offered me $17 for a perfect condition game.. stuff that, its worth keeping. I am a gamer who plays games not cares how much im going to get back when i sell it.
I would rather prefer to go home from work to see my collection of games still playable and accessable then to come home to games that dont work anymore or lost/stolen.
The benefits i care about are those that benefit the point of video games. If your a collector then go collect something else, if you just like looking at the box then go read and buy books. Video games are meant to be played not stored and resold. If your friends dont own the game, tell them to get a job and buy it, if its worth sharing then its worth buying. If your family cant play it, log into your account and give them the controller.
Its so simply its not even an argument anymore.
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Ohh right, because gamers who want to collect games, don't also want to play them, and I mean, it's not like a lot of people out there sell or trade in their games once they're done with them so they can buy more games to play! They're just in it for collecting right?
It's just as easy to see your collection of games still playable and accessable with hard copies vs. digital. Try downloading a game you don't already have installed off of steam if their servers are down, or your internet is down, for example. But nothing is going to stop me from booting up Driver for my PS1 except for the unlikely event my PS1, PS2 and PS3 all break. You're just as vulerable to incidences beyond your control affecting the playability of your game collection, you're just trading one set of risks for different, arguably more sinister set of risks.
In your eyes, video games are solely meant to be played, and not stored or resold. But that's just you. That's not an objective fact, that's just your opinion, and it's not even an opinion commonly shared amonst console video gamers. I also think it's wonderful that yout thought-process dismissing the value of owning hard copies involves literally getting another hobby, or being a jerk to your friends or family. Not everyone shares your point of view. In fact, the all of the controversey surrounding the launch of the X1 shows that you and people that share your opinion are still part of tiny minority.
So you're just gonna have to deal with it.
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