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Would you quite Modern Gaming if its Digital Only?

yes 197 44.57%
 
no 245 55.43%
 
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barneystinson69 said:

No, especially now that I've upgraded my internet to the point where I can download 40-50GB games in a couple hours.

I can also download 40-50GB games in a couple hours... something like 50 hours or so... XP



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Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
My simple question to those who would is "Do you play the game or the Box?*
Google what a video game is and what its meant to do and you will find your anwser there.

 My simple question to you is "Do you prefer to buy a product, or a service that you don't control ?"

 If your Steam account is closed (for whatever reason, like not accepting a new EULA for example) you loose all your games.

Note : link redirect to a french site, so there is this that is not the same story but seems to have the same result.

Iv had my Steam account since 2004, it has been more relyable then any console purchase i have made. All my games are playable today with free updates in 2016.

Look at the benefits

My games cant get lost, Stolen, Damaged, my home storage space increases, i dont have to put the disk in the machine to play it, and i can go anywhere around the world and not have to worry about taking my games with me.

Disadvantages

That assumption electricity no longer exists.

Sorry but iv been collecting games since the 80s. I have no room or the patients with phyical games anymore. Its no longer needed.

I game because i want entertainment,  not so i can look at a box on my shelf knowing that its mine forever when in fact even phyical copy of games can still be taken away. I own many CD based games that no longer have support though a server. What if Live or PSN go down and you own 500 phyical games and you need a day one patch?

Exacty.

 Cool story bro, but you miss the point if you think that people that doesn't want the digital-only  is just for a "look at a box on my shelf" purpose.

I collect games since the 80s too, still not a problem for me, but I can understand your point about the space occupied.

I wish you to never have problem with the society of the man on your avatar.

In your 500 physical games, lets say there are  only 20 that are unplayable without their day one patch ? Still better to have 480 games playable than none if your Steam account is closed, isn't it ?

Exactly.

But it's more a DRM problem than a digital problem.

                               

There is no argument, Digital is a far more superiour way to buy and play your games. I have had more console and disk problems with my games then i ever did with digital. Your basing your argument around "What if Steam shuts down" lol honestly you really think they will shut down? If you were right another company will pick it up and continue it. Its a major cash grab.

Your next gen console relies on the internet, most of your games require internet to play and to download the day one patches. Without PSN or Live your console is a sitting brick.

Have you notice that the game box you have has nothing in it? The console only needs the disk to prove you purchased it becasue the stupid gaming community we have today hated on DRM so now we are forced to put a plastic disk in the plastic box to give the tick of approval. Buying phyiscal is a complete waste of resources and the sooner we go 100% digital the sooner we will have Steam priced games. The longer companies have to supply disks the more we will pay for digital because they want to sell you the disks first becasue again "Stupid community" 

Its not like the past where you can look at your N64 collection and go "I own those games" espeacilly with the formats we game on today its only a cover nothing else. I dont even think my PS1 or NES even work today due to there age, so i have 500+ unplayable games because i have no other way to play them. But you would rather that then have a service that looks after your games for you. Imagine you have a house fire? You lose all your games, but if you have them online there untouchable and always ready to download.

Digital is also the best form of backwards compatiablity, you dont need to own multiple types of hardware and to hope to god your old consoles still work or worse, hoping the disks/cartridges still read.

Sure you cant sell digital but you can always sell your account. I personally dont buy games to sell them.



Conina said:

Funny that you mention the GOTY Edition of Dragon Age Inquisition. Once you typed in the redeem codes of the DLC (and it gets bound to your account), you already destroyed most of the resell value of that game. ;)

You also have to download the DLCs, they are not on the disc: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-09-25-dragon-age-inquisition-getting-game-of-the-year-edition

So after the shutdown of PSN / XBL or Steam you won't be able to redownload these DLCs even with your physical version of the game.

If you sell the game, you can't play the DLCs anymore (because you don't have the main game) and the buyer can't use the DLC content either.

Yeah, I only recently found that out. Means if you do buy the GOTY Edition, it's for the digital versions of the DLC only. Not sure on what EA/Bioware were thinking there. The main reason that I'm put off buying it, even though I doubt I'd sell it as I think DA:I was great (I think I can buy it for about £20 at the moment, exchange my old DA:I copy for £10 cash, so that's £10 for £40 of DLC).

Oh well.





Hmm, pie.

My gaming is digital only already, and has been for about 2 years now. So no



Yes, absolutely! sometimes it's nice just to sit t home and play single player offline game in peace and quite and to know that in 5 years I can play it again...



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CladInShadows said:
Azzanation said:
My simple question to those who would is "Do you play the game or the Box?*
Google what a video game is and what its meant to do and you will find your anwser there.

Yeah, I'm flabbergasted by the results of this poll. Gamers quitting gaming because they can't put that box on their shelf.

It's not just about having boxes on a shelf. I don't know how things are in Canada, but here in the U.S. under current law there are rights conferred to owners of physical copies that are not conferred to purchasers of physical copies. The fact that I referred to someone who pays for a digital download as a "purchaser" should clue you in on one of them. Ownership is control. With physical the only thing I'm not allowed to do is make copies for purposes of distribution to others (hence the term "copyright"). Other than that, there's not a damn thing the copyright holder can say about how I use or dispose of my physical copies because they're treated like any other durable good. With digital, you own jack squat, so you control jack squat. The copyright holder dictates everything because they still own the copy. They're just loaning it to you. You're not buying a product, you're paying for a "license" or "service." You can use it so long as they give you permission to. You cannot lend, gift, or sell those digital copies without the copyright holder's permission. And there is precedent for that permission being taken away. On multiple occasions, individual titles and even entire libraries worth of digital content (Steam libraries, Kindle libraries, etc.) have been wiped by the service provider.

Sorry, but given the current state of IP law as well as precedent for shenanigans from digital download service providers, not to mention other issues I have with digital, there's no way in hell I'm ever going digital-only. Aside from a couple of Virtual Console titles, everything digital I have came free with PS+.

Puppyroach said:
A great example of one of the downsides from physical only: Panzer Dragoon Saga was only released in something like 50000 copies worldwide. Sadly the source code was lost and the game will likely never be remastered. Had it been digital, it would be available to all and more people could've enjoyed it.

As opposed to something that was released digitally and was later delisted. Which has happened to a great many games due to things like expired rights. If you didn't get it while the getting was good, you ain't getting it. Period. And that's to say nothing about what will happen when the entire digital storefront is shut down when the console in question is no longer supported.



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Of course not, I would welcome it.

Video Games have always been digital (as opposed to music where tape and cassette were Analog.) It's only the format that has changed, from cartridge, to disk, to a different kind of disk, to download.

Sure there are a few records, but most all music and movies is all digital now. Games are doing the same. It was 50/50 this year for consoles over the Black Friday weekend (in the states). I see 2015 as the last year that physical lead. It's already lost PC, now consoles will be mostly digital.

It's like someone saying I need to OWN a book, rather than going to the library.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
Lauster said:
Azzanation said:
My simple question to those who would is "Do you play the game or the Box?*
Google what a video game is and what its meant to do and you will find your anwser there.

 My simple question to you is "Do you prefer to buy a product, or a service that you don't control ?"

 If your Steam account is closed (for whatever reason, like not accepting a new EULA for example) you loose all your games.

Note : link redirect to a french site, so there is this that is not the same story but seems to have the same result.

Iv had my Steam account since 2004, it has been more relyable then any console purchase i have made. All my games are playable today with free updates in 2016.

Look at the benefits

My games cant get lost, Stolen, Damaged, my home storage space increases, i dont have to put the disk in the machine to play it, and i can go anywhere around the world and not have to worry about taking my games with me.

Disadvantages

That assumption electricity no longer exists.

Sorry but iv been collecting games since the 80s. I have no room or the patients with phyical games anymore. Its no longer needed.

I game because i want entertainment,  not so i can look at a box on my shelf knowing that its mine forever when in fact even phyical copy of games can still be taken away. I own many CD based games that no longer have support though a server. What if Live or PSN go down and you own 500 phyical games and you need a day one patch?

Exacty.

 Cool story bro, but you miss the point if you think that people that doesn't want the digital-only  is just for a "look at a box on my shelf" purpose.

I collect games since the 80s too, still not a problem for me, but I can understand your point about the space occupied.

I wish you to never have problem with the society of the man on your avatar.

In your 500 physical games, lets say there are  only 20 that are unplayable without their day one patch ? Still better to have 480 games playable than none if your Steam account is closed, isn't it ?

Exactly.

But it's more a DRM problem than a digital problem.

                               

There is no argument, Digital is a far more superiour way to buy and play your games. I have had more console and disk problems with my games then i ever did with digital. Your basing your argument around "What if Steam shuts down" lol honestly you really think they will shut down? If you were right another company will pick it up and continue it. Its a major cash grab.

Your next gen console relies on the internet, most of your games require internet to play and to download the day one patches. Without PSN or Live your console is a sitting brick.

Have you notice that the game box you have has nothing in it? The console only needs the disk to prove you purchased it becasue the stupid gaming community we have today hated on DRM so now we are forced to put a plastic disk in the plastic box to give the tick of approval. Buying phyiscal is a complete waste of resources and the sooner we go 100% digital the sooner we will have Steam priced games. The longer companies have to supply disks the more we will pay for digital because they want to sell you the disks first becasue again "Stupid community" 

Its not like the past where you can look at your N64 collection and go "I own those games" espeacilly with the formats we game on today its only a cover nothing else. I dont even think my PS1 or NES even work today due to there age, so i have 500+ unplayable games because i have no other way to play them. But you would rather that then have a service that looks after your games for you. Imagine you have a house fire? You lose all your games, but if you have them online there untouchable and always ready to download.

Digital is also the best form of backwards compatiablity, you dont need to own multiple types of hardware and to hope to god your old consoles still work or worse, hoping the disks/cartridges still read.

Sure you cant sell digital but you can always sell your account. I personally dont buy games to sell them.

Theres so much wrong with this post I don't even know where to begin. Steam has steam prices because steam has competition - Amazon, gog, humble, origin etc. all over the exact same games that can be played on the same piece of hardware. Sony has no competition in the marketplace for PS4 games. MS has no competition in the marketplace for X1 games. You're not going to see steam-style prices so long as there is only an MS marketplace on your xbox to buy xbox games. They have no reason to.

Your PS1 and N64 games should work just fine if you took care of them. I still play my PS1 and dreamcast games all the time, and some of those games are 18 years old. Why wouldn't they work? People are still playing their NES games from 1985.

As for backwards compatibility, just try getting the original GTA working on Windows 10. Tell me how much fun of an experience that is if you get it to work as its supposed to.





Not a chance. If prices remained the same, I'd certainly buy less though.



I'm already starting to fall of the gaming wagon, this would be a blow that I wouldn't recover from. But Nintendo wouldn't do that so I guess I'm good.