Shadow1980 said:
Azzanation said:
Digital you dont have to take care of them.
No. You just have to hope your consoles HDD lasts forever and the console is supported forever.
Not everyone lives in a perfect enviroment, people have lost there belongings or even there houses. What happens then? Do you get a refund on all your games you lost to your house fire?
Two words: Homeowner's insurance. Not a homeowner? Two other words: renter's insurance. There's also other precautions, like investing in a fire extinguisher and a home security system. And besides, statistically speaking a catastrophic house fire or home buglarly are rare events, while a hard drive is guaranteed to fail at some point and a console's online service is guaranteed to be shut down one day.
No, can you redownload them if there digital? Yes.
Not if the console isn't supported anymore or specific titles have been delisted. If the digital store you bought your games from ceases to exist, well, good luck redownloading them. Also, a delisted title is gone forever unless it gets relisted, and there's no guarantee that'll ever happen. Meanwhile, pretty much every notable console game can still be bought second-hand long after it's gone out of print.
Hardware doesnt last forever.
Two more words: Hardware clones. Patents only last 20 years. There's already hardware clones of every system as recent as the Genesis and SNES. N64 and PS1 clones will probably start showing up not too long from now. Also, functioning hardware units for older systems can still be bought second-hand. There were some 30 million NES units sold in North America. It's not difficult to track one down.
Same goes for disks and formats.
ROM carts and optical discs have an optimum shelf life at least as long as a human lifespan. All my games purchased in the 80s still function, as does the hardware. Good luck finding a HDD that will live 30+ years and a console whose online store will be supported for 30+ years. It ain't gonna happen.
There are no benefits anymore having the games on disks, infact you get more disadvatages having it on disk then digital. The sooner the gaming community move on the better the industry becomes.
Yeah, because giving up ownership and thus ceding total control to the rights holders and content providers in a closed ecosystem is a brilliant idea. I think after the XBO debacle of spring 2013 it's clear that gamers need to keep the industry on a short leash. Going digital is basically saying "Okay. You're the boss now. You call all the shots." There's more than sufficient evidence that the game industry cannot be trusted to not screw us over. MS already tried (and failed) giving the middle finger to the First-sale Doctrine. Console gamers don't need to be doing the same. Copyright holders have been trying for decades to gain absolute total control over everything, and if they had the chance they'd annihilate every "safety valve" there was: the First-sale Doctrine, Fair Use, and the Public Domain. I don't know how things are wherever you live, but here in the U.S. IP law is more than a bit of a joke, but what safeguards we do have have proven invaluable.
Pointing to PC as a supposed exemplar of digital distribution doesn't work, because PC is an open platform and with competing storefronts there's at least some incentive to not be total pricks to the customer. A fully-digital console would involve you buying from and only from the console maker's digital store. Buy an all-digital Xbox V or PS6? Be prepared to only be able to buy from the XBL Marketplace or PS Store and deal with the potential consequences of a de facto monopoly on content distribution on the platform. Asking for the console market to go all-digital is asking for trouble. The PC market and the console market are two totally different beasts, and while all-digital may make all the sense in the world to a PC gamer, the rules that apply to PC do not and never have applied to consoles. Period. You may enjoy Steam as a service, but please don't expect us console gamers to give up physical media just because of your personal preferences.
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PSN and Live will be around for years, the next generation consoles will obviously carry over your current PSN and Live account just like they did last gen. Steam is a good example of this practice and how it works. It’s been reliable
If you think that over night Live or PSN will close down then your posts is laughable. Even if Sony or MS decide to throw in the towel, someone else will pick up the reigns and continue it. I have been using online since the day it was available and guess what? Over the years, my digital library on all platforms have been the most reliable while trying to play games on my perfectly condition Atari ST and out of 500 games i own on disk, only half of them work. Now if they were digital I’ll be able to redownload and play them but i can’t and i can’t buy those games any more. Only 2/3 of my PS1 games work after years sitting in a cabinet because my laser in my PS1 died, do i have to keep rebuying or repairing my PS1? Again Digital doesn’t have this problem.
The problem with most of you against digital is you believe in some kind of online Armageddon where all services and accounts no longer function. There’s a higher chance that you will lose, damage, destroyed or have your games stolen then Live, PSN, Direct or Steam will shut down.
This ownership bullsh^% that digital haters spew out is some of the stupidest things I’ve heard. You don’t own anything, everything can be taken away from you. If PSN goes down and Sony destroys there service (For god knows what reason) most of your physical games are rendered unplayable especially if you require a day one patch. I have heaps of games i own the disk to that no longer work.
If your HDD blows up, redownload them on another HDD drive, its simple.
Digital has and always will be a much safer way to game for everyone.
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PSN and Live will be around for decades, the next generation of consoles will obviously carry over your current PSN and Live account just like they did last gen. Steam is a good example of this practice and how it works. It’s been reliable
If you think that over night Live or PSN will close down then your posts is laughable. Even if Sony or MS decide to throw in the towel, someone else will pick up the reigns and continue it. I have been using online since the day it was available and guess what? Over the years, my digital library on all platforms have been the most reliable while trying to play games on my perfectly condition Atari ST and out of 500 games i own on disk, only half of them work. Now if they were digital I’ll be able to redownload and play them but i can’t and i can’t buy those games any more. Only 2/3 of my PS1 games work after years sitting in a cabinet because my laser in my PS1 died, do i have to keep rebuying or repairing my PS1? Again Digital doesn’t have this problem.
The problem with most of you against digital is you believe in some kind of online Armageddon where all services and accounts no longer function. There’s a higher chance that you will lose, damage, destroyed or have your games stolen then Live, PSN, Direct or Steam will shut down.
This ownership bullsh^% that digital haters spew out is some of the stupidest things I’ve heard. You don’t own anything, everything can be taken away from you. If PSN goes down and Sony destroys there service (For god knows what reason) most of your physical games are rendered unplayable especially if you require a day one patch. I have heaps of games i own the disk to that no longer work.
If your HDD blows up, redownload them on another HDD drive, its simple.
Digital has and always will be a much safer way to game for everyone.
