Those people are usually PC gamers like myself. We like modding things. We find getting the most out of a system to be satisifying. I tamper with my consoles, my PC's have liquid cooling, I overclock etc.

I'm starting to wonder why this need to justify PC superiority even exists. If it is the best version, get it and enjoy it. I'm a gamer! While I prefer the PC, I know that it's not always the best place to game. PC titles aren't always superior either....  *cough Batman*

In Australia console games are much cheaper than buyign games of steam, there's also the thing of reselling, buy a game brand new at $70 resell soon as I finish get $55 back, buy the game back when its $20. No matter what you think console gaming is much cheaper.

"The title is planned to become available on PC (after PS4)."

That makes this bad analogy even funnier.

The thing is I do get my games and I do enjoy them but to say you cannot talk about the differences between games on different systems is baffling, especially when you see DF vids between all 3 systems. I for one love watching benchmark vids to see perf gains from game to game and patch to patch because I like being informed about what I'm buying into rather than ignoring everything perf/visual wise and diving in blindly while ignoring everything anyone says about any game. I mean I'd rather know about what the game can do on my system and at elast be able to talk about said performance than simply thinking everyone knows what it runs like (we aren't all psycic though so there's that).

The other thing is that we all know both systems aren't perfect but they also aren't so even, this is the point I really want to make clear, you say PC titles aren't always suprior and I'd likely say the same for consoles but there is always going to be differences, I mean one creates and plays games while the other just plays them, one is open and the other closed.

Can you explain to me why they are more expensive over in Aussie?, I mean it's not just because Valve wants more money from Australia, I think there is far more to it than that, I think the real issue isn't Steam charging more money but due to the way AUS works, the same goes for Germany and their censorship of games, that's not the fault of Valve and the same for Japan when they decide to censor or the US/UK, I have to pay 20% extra VAT on practically anything I import to the UK, that's not the fault of the companies, that's the UK that's doing that to me.

I honestly wouldn't doubt that there are others on here too who don't wave the flag of PC gamer for this reason, it doesn't mean they don't have a lovely gaming rig, (nice one in the sig btw, wasn't a huge fan of the HD series myself just from a driver support point of view when it came to running WoW) but yeah I guess the same can be said about a load of the Ps4/X1 gamers on here, they don't have to mention the platform each time they talk about a game or something going on in the industry, they just talk about the games, I'm not sure, perhaps if we could monetize our posts on here and get a couple of cent every time we name dropped a console I would start to do it more (Altho I do mention Vita a lot because I literally sleep with it :o ) but yeah Just wanted to say I see where your mini rant comes from here.

Also @ your on topic part, ofc, money talks and bullshit walks... or in this case Kojima walked from the Bullshit at Konami :D

Its acceptable for those that don't mind the maintenaince aspects i mentioned.

I dont think it makes any difference trying to belittle those who don't enjoy those hassles and saying they live under a rock. Its actually a very narrowminded PoV. We know most people don't like computers and can hardly handle them. We here on this website are probably a minority. But alot of people simply don't enjoy it. If it isnt a hobby, its time you would rather spend doing something else. A console is a no hassle proposition. That is why its sucessful.

And the masses are ignorant. Its just how it is. But, they can be surprisingly honest aswell.

My rig has gotten old - so I'm actually planning a new one right now, which is quite fun. I'm aiming for a 6700K though, which had quite the price hike since Intel severly undershipped it (at least in Germany). So I'm still waiting for the price to drop to a decent level again.

I never knew that there were any problems with the HD series and WoW. I played a lot of WoW on that card and its predecessor (which was a HD4890) and never noticed any problems. Are you still playing WoW? Any thoughts on Legion? What hardware are you running?

It's just the way you talk about it makes it seem like it's entirely not worth anything to care about and has so many cons stacked against it.

For some people it is. These people don't get gaming PCs. 

I for one wasted a bunch of money on my laptop to game on it cause, I couldn't validate owning a PC in College. But now, I can build a PC proper.

Also this trainwreck of a thread is hilarious.