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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - So Xenoblade X has an 84 on metacritix because there is too much to do and the world is too big?

I don't get why to be mad for a 84 (that will probably be a 85 at the end going by the amount of high scores is getting lately), it's a good score and that's all that matters, metacritic is not a bible, is just a recomplilation of scores, and more than half of those scores are 9 or more than 9, wich means a ton of critics think the game is wonderfull, and out of 36 scores just 4 are mixed and none of them under 7 so I mean... this is a very good reception overall, Fallout 4 has an 84 on PC (and 86 combining the 3 systems), and the game is considered to be great and I don't think people is mad about it.



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I just want to leave this here:
Games do not start at 10/10 and then get points reduced. A game can be a 7/10 without any actual flaws simply because the game is not better than a 7/10...

Edit: In reverse games can have (pretty big) flaws but still get a 10/10 because they are that friggin good.



      
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A lot things to do and a big world are not always fun to play.
Including them in a game doesn't mean that a game has to be good.



Goodnightmoon said:

I don't get why to be mad for a 84 (that will probably be a 85 at the end going by the amount of high scores is getting lately), it's a good score and that's all that matters, metacritic is not a bible, is just a recomplilation of scores, and more than half of those scores are 9 or more than 9, wich means a ton of critics think the game is wonderfull, and out of 36 scores just 4 are mixed and none of them under 7 so I mean... this is a very good reception overall, Fallout 4 has an 84 on PC (and 86 combining the 3 systems), and the game is considered to be great and I don't think people is mad about it.


Metacritic still shows 84 but it's standing at 85.94 right now...



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The score is just what I expected

Xenoblade Chronicles set the bar too high



z101 said:
LuckyTrouble said:
To be fair, from what I gather, the shortfalls of XCX are:
- Weak/Unimportant Story
- Soundtrack that doesn't seem to fit the game
- Shallow side quests

Those are all very good reasons to rate a game closer to 8 than 10, especially an RPG where all three of those aspects play a very important role in the overall experience. What I'm really tired of is people bitching over numbers. Just read the reviews. If you disagree, fine, whatever, but god damn it, don't just read a number and two lines of the conclusion and say "THIS REVIEWER IS SO BIASED AND HORRIBLE I NEED TO GO MAKE A BLANKET STATEMENT ABOUT THE BIAS OF GAMING MEDIA!"

 

Read the reviews the general consense includes nothing of the points you mentioned...

The story is not weak or unimportant but more mature and not that epic as in other mainstream RPGs (no chosen hero that should save the world).

The soundtrack got many praise, many reviewers called it the best game soundtrack of 2015.

The sidequest are not "shallow". There are different type of side quest and they are often story ridden.

 

The only general complaint of some reviewers is the fact that X is very big and has no hand holding. These are valid complaints, because most games today don't want to challenge the player, they are straight forward. They only want to entertain the player, like a transformers movie. So some players would surely be overhelmed by a game such as Xenoblade X.

X can be as deep as you want. There are many, many strategies to play this game and none of these is forced onto you. Thats surely to much for some mainstream players.

You definetly didnt read the reviews, the points LuckyTrouble highlighted are in fact the main critsism the game is getting, and its happening enought times to bring the games average score down, its not 1 or 2 reviewers that think this way. Of course the reviews that are very positive dont find those things to be problems (or only think a few of them are) but if youre only reading the positive reviews youre doing it wrong, youre suposed to read a sample of the bad and the good to come to your own conclusion otherwise youre just having a biased sample (for good or for bad).

Its hard to discuss the soundtrack tough as liking a tune or not is super personal. However the emotions a certain tune evokes is not personal at all, a sound activates a specific part of the brain and that generates a specific emotional response, thats why action movie/games songs have a certain beat, horror songs have another, sad songs are mostly slow and high pitched etc. With so many ppl thinking the soundtrack doesnt fit its very likely that it actualy doesnt fit but those who like how it sounds are just ignoring the fact that the wrong emotions are being evoked because they like how the song sounds.



It's not a matter of bias. Metacritic is a mechanism that favors the uniformation of tastes.
Xenoblade X is clearly a game designed for specific tastes, for JRPG lovers who like slow exploration and step-by-step game progression. These are not features everyone likes, hence this game never stood a chance on metacrtic against the average western linear-action game.



84 is a solid score indicating a good to great game. Bitching about reviewers surely can go too far. If a solid game would be downranked for some stupid shit into the 60s, complaining might be justified, but as it is it sounds a lot like bitching. That said I'm totally hyped for XCX.



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Dr.Vita said:

A lot things to do and a big world are not always fun to play.
Including them in a game doesn't mean that a game has to be good.

Now that I think about it, that was one of the reasons why I gave up on Just Cause 2 after ~40%. The world gets boring pretty fast.

However, since Xenoblade Chronicles is an RPG with lots of characters, quests, story, and action, I think the bigger the better.