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padib said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

I don't think so, they change enough between iterations of the 3D ones, only ever having 2 in a row that are similar.

The two iterations were so simplified that already at 2 iterations in a row, they've also gone stale.

Considering 3DL itself was stale the moment it came out, that's not exactly a fair statement to make. 3DW takes more from Galaxy 2 though, and that plus the charm the game has puts it near the top of my 3D Mario games personally. 3DL, contrarily, is near the bottom. I got the game for $20, beat all the main worlds a few hours, and got too bored to go to the bonus world's, which are supposed to be the interesting part.



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BraLoD said:
Mario will be a human-like character that talk, have emotions and kicks ass.
The Mario of Us incoming.


LOL!!!



I have more than enough faith in Miyamoto that they will bring the Mario franchise towards an amazing future.



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Time for a new direction? Well if 30 years wasn't time then I wouldn't know what was



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Time for a new direction? Well if 30 years wasn't time then I wouldn't know what was


30 Years and:

List

Title Year System Genre
Donkey Kong 1981 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 1982 Intellivision Platformer (2D)
1982 ColecoVision Platformer (2D)
1982 Atari 2600 Platformer (2D)
1982 TRS-80 CoCo Platformer (2D)
1983 Atari 8-bit Platformer (2D)
1983 TI-99/4a Platformer (2D)
1983 IBM PC Booter Platformer (2D)
1983 Commodore 64 Platformer (2D)
1983 Commodore VIC-20 Platformer (2D)
1983 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
1986 MSX Platformer (2D)
1986 ZX Spectrum Platformer (2D)
1986 Amstrad CPC Platformer (2D)
1988 Atari 7800 Platformer (2D)
1988 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 1994 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 2002 e-Reader Platformer (2D)
2004 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong Jr. 1982 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
1982 Atari 2600 Platformer (2D)
1982 ColecoVision Platformer (2D)
1982 Commodore VIC-20 Platformer (2D)
1982 BBC Micro Platformer (2D)
1983 Atari 8-bit Platformer (2D)
1983 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
1986 Atari 7800 Platformer (2D)
1988 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
2002 e-Reader Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong Jr. 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong II 1982 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
Mario's Cement Factory 1983 Game & Watch Action game
Mario's Bombs Away 1983 Game & Watch Action game
Mario Bros. 1983 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
1983 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
1983 Apple II Platformer (2D)
1983 Atari 2600 Platformer (2D)
1983 Atari 5200 Platformer (2D)
1983 Amstrad CPC Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. 1983 Game & Watch Action game
Mario Bros. (Atarisoft version) 1984 Commodore 64 Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. 1984 Sinclair Spectrum Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. Special 1984 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
Punch Ball Mario Bros. 1984 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. 1986 Atari 7800 Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. (Ocean Software version) 1986 Commodore 64 Platformer (2D)
Mario Bros. 1988 Atari 8-bit Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong Circus 1984 Game & Watch Action game
Donkey Kong Hockey 1984 Game & Watch Sports
Tennis 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Tennis)
Vs. Tennis 1984 Arcade game Sports (Tennis)
Tennis 1986 Famicom Disk System Sports (Tennis)
Pinball 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Pinball
Vs. Pinball 1984 Arcade game Pinball
Pinball 1989 Famicom Disk System Pinball
Golf 1984 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Golf)
Vs. Golf 1984 Arcade game Sports (Golf)
Golf 1986 Famicom Disk System Sports (Golf)
Wrecking Crew 1985 Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
Vs. Wrecking Crew 1985 Arcade game Action game
Wrecking Crew 1989 Famicom Disk System Action game
Super Mario Bros. 1985 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Vs. Super Mario Bros. 1986 Arcade game Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Bros. 1986 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Bros. Special 1986 NEC PC-8801 Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Bros. 1986 Game & Watch Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Bros. 2 1986 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
I am a Teacher: Super Mario Sweater 1986 Famicom Disk System Educational
1988 Personal computer Educational
All Night Nippon Super Mario Bros. 1986 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
Famicom Grand Prix: F-1 Race 1987 Famicom Disk System Racing
Mario Bros. II 1987 Commodore 64 Action game
Punch-Out!! 1987 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports
Super Mario Bros. 2 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Famicom Grand Prix II: 3D Hot Rally 1988 Famicom Disk System Racing
Super Mario Bros. 3 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Kaettekita Mario Bros. 1988 Famicom Disk System Platformer (2D)
Tetris 1988 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
Alleyway 1989 Game Boy Action game
Baseball 1989 Game Boy Sports (Baseball)
Super Mario Land 1989 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
Tennis 1989 Game Boy Sports (Tennis)
Tetris 1989 Game Boy Puzzle
Golf 1989 Game Boy Sports (Golf)
Super Mario Brothers 1989 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Brothers 2 1989 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
Qix 1990 Game Boy Puzzle
Dr. Mario 1990 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
1990 Game Boy Puzzle
Vs. Dr. Mario 1990 Arcade game Puzzle
F-1 Race 1990 Game Boy Racing
Super Mario World 1990 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Brothers 3 1990 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
NES Open Tournament Golf 1991 Nintendo Entertainment System Sports (Golf)
Super Mario Brothers 4 1991 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
Mario Teaches Typing 1991 Personal computer Educational
Super Mario Bros. & Friends: When I Grow Up 1991 Personal computer Art tool/Non-game
Mario the Juggler 1991 Game & Watch Action game
Yoshi 1991 Game Boy Puzzle
1991 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
Mario is Missing! 1992 Personal computer Educational
1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Super Mario Kart 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Racing
Super Scope 6 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
Mario Paint 1992 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Art tool/Non-game
Yoshi's Cookie 1992 Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
1992 Game Boy Puzzle
Super Mario Race 1992 Nelsonic Game Watch Racing
Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins 1992 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
Mario's Time Machine 1993 Personal computer Educational
1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Mario is Missing! 1993 Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Mario & Wario 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Action game
Super Mario All-Stars 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Mario's Early Years! Fun with Letters 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Mario's Early Years: Fun with Numbers 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Mario's Early Years: Preschool Fun 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Yoshi's Cookie 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
Yoshi's Safari 1993 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Rail shooter
Tetris & Dr. Mario 1994 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 1994 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
Mario's Playschool 1994 Personal computer Educational
Mario's Time Machine 1994 Nintendo Entertainment System Educational
Hotel Mario 1994 CD-i Educational
Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World 1994 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 1994 Game Boy Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong 1994 Nelsonic Game Watch Platformer (2D)
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Platformer (2D)
Mario's Game Gallery 1995 Personal computer Board games
Undake 30 Same Game 1995 Satellaview Puzzle
Mario Excite Bike 1995 Satellaview Racing
BS Super Mario USA Power Challenge 1995 Satellaview Platformer (2D)
Mario's Picross 1995 Game Boy Puzzle
Mario's Super Picross 1995 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Puzzle
Mario's Tennis 1995 Virtual Boy Sports (Tennis)
Mario Clash 1995 Virtual Boy Platformer (3D)
Mario Teaches Typing 2 1996 Personal computer Educational
Super Mario 64 1996 Nintendo 64 Platformer (3D)
Mario Kart 64 1996 Nintendo 64 Racing
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars 1996 Super Nintendo Entertainment System Role-playing
BS Mario Paint: Yuu Shou Naizou Ban 1997 Satellaview Art tool/Non-game
Dr. Mario BS Version 1997 Satellaview Puzzle
Game & Watch Gallery 1997 Game Boy Minigame compilation
Game & Watch Gallery 2 1997 Game Boy Minigame compilation
Yoshi's Story 1998 Nintendo 64 Platformer (2D)
Mario no Photopi 1998 Nintendo 64 Art tool/Non-game
Wrecking Crew '98 1998 Satellaview Action game
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe 1998 Game Boy Color Platformer (2D)
Mario Golf 1998 Nintendo 64 Sports (Golf)
Mario Party 1998 Nintendo 64 Party game
Mario Party 2 1999 Nintendo 64 Party game
Super Smash Bros. 1999 Nintendo 64 Fighting game
Game & Watch Gallery 3 1999 Game Boy Color Minigame compilation
Mario Golf 1999 Game Boy Color Sports (Golf)
Mario Artist: Paint Studio 1999 Nintendo 64DD Art tool/Non-game
Donkey Kong 64 1999 Nintendo 64 Platformer (3D)
Mario Artist: Talent Studio 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art tool/Non-game
Mario Artist: Communication Kit 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art tool/Non-game
Mario Artist: Polygon Studio 2000 Nintendo 64DD Art tool/Non-game
Mario Tennis 2000 Nintendo 64 Sports (Tennis)
Paper Mario 2000 Nintendo 64 Role-playing
Mario Party 3 2000 Nintendo 64 Party game
Animal Crossing 2001 Nintendo GameCube Life simulation
Dr. Mario 64 2001 Nintendo 64 Puzzle
Luigi's Mansion 2001 Nintendo GameCube Action-adventure game
Super Smash Bros. Melee 2001 Nintendo GameCube Fighting game
Mario Tennis 2001 Game Boy Color Sports (Tennis)
Mario Kart: Super Circuit 2001 Game Boy Advance Racing
Super Mario Advance 2001 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World 2001 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Super Mario Sunshine 2002 Nintendo GameCube Platformer (3D)
Mario Party 4 2002 Nintendo GameCube Party game
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 2002 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Game & Watch Gallery 4 2002 Game Boy Advance Minigame compilation
Mario Party 5 2003 Nintendo GameCube Party game
Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 2003 Nintendo GameCube Racing
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour 2003 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Golf)
Nintendo Puzzle Collection 2003 Nintendo GameCube Puzzle
Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 2003 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga 2003 Game Boy Advance Role-playing
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 2004 Nintendo GameCube Role-playing
Classic NES Series: Super Mario Bros. 2004 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Classic NES Series: Dr. Mario 2004 Game Boy Advance Puzzle
Mario Party 6 2004 Nintendo GameCube Party game
Mario Power Tennis (GameCube) 2004 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Tennis)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2004 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Mario Golf: Advance Tour 2004 Game Boy Advance Sports (Golf)
Mario Pinball Land 2004 Game Boy Advance Pinball
Super Mario 64 DS 2004 Nintendo DS Platformer (3D)
Yakuman DS 2004 Nintendo DS Board game (Mahjong)
NBA Street V3 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Basketball)
Mario Superstar Baseball 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Baseball)
Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix 2005 Nintendo GameCube Music video game
SSX on Tour 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Snowboarding)
Mario Kart DS 2005 Nintendo DS Racing
Mario Party 7 2005 Nintendo GameCube Party game
Super Mario Strikers 2005 Nintendo GameCube Sports (Soccer)
Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time 2005 Nintendo DS Role-playing
Yoshi Touch & Go 2005 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
Mario Party Advance 2005 Game Boy Advance Party game
Mario Tennis: Power Tour 2005 Game Boy Advance Sports (Tennis)
Dr. Mario & Puzzle League 2005 Game Boy Advance Puzzle
Yoshi Topsy Turvy 2005 Game Boy Advance Platformer (2D)
Mario Kart Arcade GP 2005 Arcade game Racing
Super Princess Peach 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
New Super Mario Bros. 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
Mario Hoops 3-on-3 2006 Nintendo DS Sports (Basketball)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
Yoshi's Island DS 2006 Nintendo DS Platformer (2D)
Tetris DS 2006 Nintendo DS Puzzle
Super Paper Mario 2007 Wii Role-playing
Mario Party 8 2007 Wii Party game
Mario Strikers Charged 2007 Wii Sports
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games 2007 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
2007 Nintendo DS Sports (Olympic Games)
Super Mario Galaxy 2007 Wii Platformer (3D)
Mario Party DS 2007 Nintendo DS Party game
Itadaki Street DS 2007 Nintendo DS Party game
Mario Kart Arcade GP 2 2007 Arcade game Racing
Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2008 Wii Fighting game
Dr. Mario Express 2008 Nintendo DSi Puzzle
Dr. Mario Online Rx 2008 Wii Puzzle
Mario Kart Wii 2008 Wii Racing
Game & Watch Collection 2008 Nintendo DS Minigame compilation
Mario Super Sluggers 2008 Wii Sports
Mario Power Tennis (New Play Control! series) 2009 Wii Sports (Tennis)
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games' 2009 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
2009 Nintendo DS Sports (Olympic Games)
New Super Mario Bros. Wii 2009 Wii Platformer (2D)
Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story 2009 Nintendo DS Role-playing
Super Mario Galaxy 2 2010 Wii Platformer (3D)
Game & Watch Collection 2 2010 Nintendo DS Minigame compilation
Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary Edition 2010 Wii Platformer (2D)
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem! 2010 Nintendo DS Puzzle
Mario Sports Mix 2010 Wii Sports
Super Mario 3D Land 2011 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (3D)
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games 2011 Wii Sports (Olympic Games)
Mario Kart 7 2011 Nintendo 3DS Racing
Fortune Street 2011 Wii Party game
Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games 2012 Nintendo 3DS Sports (Olympic Games)
Mario Party 9 2012 Wii Party game
Mario Tennis Open 2012 Nintendo 3DS Sports (Tennis)
New Super Mario Bros. 2 2012 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star 2012 Nintendo 3DS Role-playing
New Super Mario Bros. U 2012 Wii U Platformer (2D)
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon 2013 Nintendo 3DS Action-adventure game
Mario Kart Arcade GP DX 2013 Arcade game Racing
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team 2013 Nintendo 3DS Role-playing
Mario and Donkey Kong: Minis on the Move 2013 Nintendo 3DS Puzzle
Super Mario 3D World 2013 Wii U Platformer (3D)
Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games 2013 Wii U Sports (Olympic Games)
Mario Party: Island Tour 2013 Nintendo 3DS Party game
Dr. Luigi 2013 Wii U Puzzle
NES Remix 2013 Wii U Minigame compilation
NES Remix 2 2014 Wii U Minigame compilation
Mario Golf: World Tour 2014 Nintendo 3DS Sports (Golf)
Yoshi's New Island 2014 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)
Mario Kart 8 2014 Wii U Racing
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker 2014 Wii U Puzzle video game
Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS 2014 Nintendo 3DS Fighting game
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 2014 Wii U Fighting game
Ultimate NES Remix 2014 Nintendo 3DS Minigame compilation
Mario Party 10 2015 Wii U Party game
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars 2015 Wii U Puzzle
2015 Nintendo 3DS Puzzle
Dr. Mario: Miracle Cure 2015 Nintendo 3DS Puzzle
Super Mario Maker 2015 Wii U Platformer (2D)
Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash 2015 Wii U Puzzle
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games 2016 Wii U Platformer (2D)
2016 Nintendo 3DS Platformer (2D)
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam 2016 Nintendo 3DS

Role-playing

 

All of those games featuring Mario.



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I trust miyamoto morw than anyone jn the gaming world.



if he means what what i think he means then... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



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spurgeonryan said:
padib said:

So are the 3D ones (3D Land, 3D World).


I would not really consider those 3D though. Even compared to Mario 64. To be honest, despite having a lot of "3D" Mario over the years since Mario Sunshine and Mario 64, I do not really feel like any of it has been what anyone has wanted. Sure, the Mario Galaxies were great and unequaled in their time, but they just were not an open 3D world like Sunshine and 64 were. Hopefully the NX gives us a true Mario 3D game. Could Mario have a huge Zelda like world where he is free to roam and jump on mushrooms and ride a yoshi? How would a game like that work with underground tunnels incorporated into it or huge gunships and real castles to explore? Could they incorporate Luigi's Mansion into it whenever he goes into a ghost level? If you played as Luigi would he get a ghost busting vacumn 3,000? What about flying? Would it be like the over world in Mario 64 where you can go anywhere?

Real 3D Padib. Not this Baby Bullshit we have been force fed. Pardon my French, but I feel like Nintendo has been avoiding the real next gen for a long time. Mario Kart 8 is a push in the right direction, but besides getting online multiplayer right they have nothing else going for it. Exploration, short cuts, fun, etc. Even the anti-gravity is hard to really appreciate because you cannot actually see the worlds around you fly by. Smash Wii U is great! But still stuck in 2D mostly. Same with DKWii U and many other efforts from them. Kirby, Yoshi? 3D, even though they revolutionized it, is something they have been steering clear of for a long time. Galaxy got it, but on a small scale and we could not reallly relish it. Zelda seems to be the only chance we get for true 3D from Nintendo anymore and even that was limited in Skyward Sword. Each area felt like we were trapped in it until we finished it.

The things they could do with Mario if they truly wanted to be the innovative company that they say they are! You think motion control and rumble packs were a stretch that worked? That is nothing compared to what some good ideas could do. Like the upcoming Zelda, if Nintendo was just willing to dream it, anything could happen. But they have to be willing.....like a little Miyamoto as a child when he dreamed of epic battles in the fields. Or as he got older when He picked up gardening and the pikmin that followed. He needs to get his teams to dream like that if they ever want to be as successful as he has been. Until that happens we will continue to get good intentions, instead of GRADE A GTA killing games!

I agree with this post minus the part about Smash. That's like complaining about Street Fighter being 2D! I'd say Smash is fine the way it is right now.



                
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AZWification said:

            I really wonder what they mean by " new direction".. Maybe we are finally getting the Mario FPS everyone wants? Heh.

Mario 2D game that isn't NSMB.



padib said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

If hes talking about the 2D games thank god, they are getting stale af.

So are the 3D ones (3D Land, 3D World).

Not true at all.

We have NSMB DS, NSMB Wii, NSMB 3DS and NSMB Wii U, basically 4 identical games with little different levels.

On other hand, we have Mario 3D Land 3DS and Mario 3D World Wii U, 2 games that have much difference between them than all NSMB games combine.