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MikeRox said:
I think what happened was, a new generation of gamers started playing games. Their initial experiences were the biggest and the best of the PS2, so they expected every single game to be delivering this (40+ hour campaigns, open worlds, online play etc.) and in the process drove out the market for the more niche stuff.

I miss arcade games :(


Play games made by Housemarque they are awesome and have that arcade feeling



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Qwark said:
MikeRox said:
I think what happened was, a new generation of gamers started playing games. Their initial experiences were the biggest and the best of the PS2, so they expected every single game to be delivering this (40+ hour campaigns, open worlds, online play etc.) and in the process drove out the market for the more niche stuff.

I miss arcade games :(


Play games made by Housemarque they are awesome and have that arcade feeling


I think you may be right,the middle class games are what we call indies.

Housemarque games are awesome indeed!



 

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xl-klaudkil said:
Eddie_Raja said:


Thanks for warning me to not watch it. :)

Xd again video isnt even about that >.< thats what happens if people jump to conclusions to soon.

Is it really jumping to conclusions tho? almost every person who has went to watch it suggested that it sounds like you're complaining about what people are enjoying? I mean... if there is a bigger deeper meaning behind what everyone sees in the video, well great, but you didn't do a good job of putting it forward.



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You make no sense, yes we have dlc and specs talks...

you can just avoid them and enjoy the games, like you used to when you were younget... Old games are technically and often mechanically less proficient, however they are often just as fun in their own way (it's easy to just pick the cream of the crop on old systems, so their libraries look really good too).

I personally ignore all dlc, pre order bonusses, etc. And play 98% single player, mostly story or mood based titles, or re-play older jrpgs/action games... I also appreciate the technical progression on consoles and pc hardware and get that some people are upset that it's still in question wether their consoles will run games with a decent frame rate, plenty of details while keeping the resolution at 1080p, which the ps4 mostly does adequately fine, but this is the only acceptable console power wise.



Yeah. The reason the market turned into a lot of things we hate. Is because people want maximum everything. So it's all filled with dick measuring. And so companies are now forced to use WOW factor, basically every time. Who started it? The companies. Who reinforced it. The majority consumers. This in returned caused things to go overboard. Or the smaller things to get ignored. Bad DLC pratices came into exsistance, to deal with all the increases. Even with the WOW factor popping up, in the 90's. We still didn't care about resolutions, HD, SD, 3D, 5.1, 7.1, 10,000p etc.

That all started when all companies shoved widescreen HD down our throats. Just for sales. So now people are zombies to it. Instead of going: "You know, 1080p is good enough." So everything will just keep going up and up. Till something fails. Or enough people get bored. Then things will start leveling out. Maybe then, people will allow other stuff to come back.



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archer9234 said:

Yeah. The reason the market turned into a lot of things we hate. Is because people want maximum everything. So it's all filled with dick measuring. And so companies are now forced to use WOW factor, basically every time. Who started it? The companies. Who reinforced it. The majority consumers. This in returned caused things to go overboard. Or the smaller things to get ignored. Bad DLC pratices came into exsistance, to deal with all the increases. Even with the WOW factor popping up, in the 90's. We still didn't care about resolutions, HD, SD, 3D, 5.1, 7.1, 10,000p etc.

That all started when all companies shoved widescreen HD down our throats. Just for sales. So now people are zombies to it. Instead of going: "You know, 1080p is good enough." So everything will just keep going up and up. Till something fails. Or enough people get bored. Then things will start leveling out. Maybe then, people will allow other stuff to come back.


You sir get my respect for saying something i cant!

i fullheartly agree!



 

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archer9234 said:

 So everything will just keep going up and up. Till something fails.


That already happened, when a big chunk of juicy games disappeared and the west was left with mostly crap AAAs and good+bad Indies with not much in between



xl-klaudkil said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
Sorry but you lost me within 1 minute into the video.

"why are graphics more important than gameplay and having fun"

- only argument made by those who cant accept a lot of the best looking games in the industry have fantastic gameplay and massive followings because they are fun more than anything else.

As for the good looking ones that dont have fun gameplay, they have a lower number of players.

There is no problem, its only one created by people who like games that dont compete on graphics with good looking games that have fun gameplay.


That's what happens if you dont watch the vid,that whas not the point.or at least not entirely.

 

Point is developers are focusing to much on graphics on gameplay and performance suffer!

 

If the developers of ac unity would have focust a lot more about making the game perform and bug free as much as possible instead of boosting about graphics the game would have been better.

 

But i gues graphics are more important.

For you at least.


That doesnt make sense at all.

In most studios, those who work on graphics dont have much say on gameplay so whether they create something beautiful or something that looks shit, it doesnt change the work the individuals who work on the games engine and gameplay elements.

Graphics are just bolt ons that can be added, removed, changed or have their quality adjusted at any time during development.

Just accept the reality, theres good looking games that are bad, theres good looking games that are good, theres bad looking games that are bad and theres bad looking games that are good. There is no correlation between how a game looks and how it plays.

There are plenty of games this gen that look incredible and have great gameplay. Get over it.



fps_d0minat0r said:
xl-klaudkil said:


That's what happens if you dont watch the vid,that whas not the point.or at least not entirely.

 

Point is developers are focusing to much on graphics on gameplay and performance suffer!

 

If the developers of ac unity would have focust a lot more about making the game perform and bug free as much as possible instead of boosting about graphics the game would have been better.

 

But i gues graphics are more important.

For you at least.


That doesnt make sense at all.

In most studios, those who work on graphics dont have much say on gameplay so whether they create something beautiful or something that looks shit, it doesnt change the work the individuals who work on the games engine and gameplay elements.

Graphics are just bolt ons that can be added, removed, changed or have their quality adjusted at any time during development.

Just accept the reality, theres good looking games that are bad, theres good looking games that are good, theres bad looking games that are bad and theres bad looking games that are good. There is no correlation between how a game looks and how it plays.

There are plenty of games this gen that look incredible and have great gameplay. Get over it.


Okej dude if ya say so.



 

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fps_d0minat0r said:
xl-klaudkil said:


That's what happens if you dont watch the vid,that whas not the point.or at least not entirely.

 

Point is developers are focusing to much on graphics on gameplay and performance suffer!

 

If the developers of ac unity would have focust a lot more about making the game perform and bug free as much as possible instead of boosting about graphics the game would have been better.

 

But i gues graphics are more important.

For you at least.


That doesnt make sense at all.

In most studios, those who work on graphics dont have much say on gameplay so whether they create something beautiful or something that looks shit, it doesnt change the work the individuals who work on the games engine and gameplay elements.

Graphics are just bolt ons that can be added, removed, changed or have their quality adjusted at any time during development.

Just accept the reality, theres good looking games that are bad, theres good looking games that are good, theres bad looking games that are bad and theres bad looking games that are good. There is no correlation between how a game looks and how it plays.

There are plenty of games this gen that look incredible and have great gameplay. Get over it.

It can. Here's an example: The company goal is to make it look the best. So money is diverted to that area. A Scene requires important story element. Not enough time left. Due to time used up to build game. Scene is cut/transfered to DLC. Milked for more money. Or story no longer makes sense. A story in most cases is damaged by time restrictions. VS a lower graphics quality game, having that time availble. And no. I'm not saying to make a game look like an N64 game. You make the game upto current standard. But you don't push it.

R* is an example to this. GTA San Andreas. It was the top of the line game back when it was new. It had Widescreen support and high graphics. It didn't work all that well on PC's of that era. It took nearly a decade for PC's to handle it no problem. What's the point though? The game is 8 years old. And no one cares. Why bother pushing this then?