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OnlyForDisplay said:
xl-klaudkil said:


Some things should have never happend and could have been avoided if we as the consumers didny buy it!


That may be. However, the HD era has brought its own form of well polished titles. You are right, some developers (for that matter publishers) should consider a push back if the game isn't functioning properly. At the same token, as many others have stated, broken games will have to happen. I am not sure entirely by what you are stating (my apologizes) regarding broken software, but if DLC and micro-transactions are a major detracting factor, I do agree. The way Evolve handled the whole mess is why I myself generally do not buy either or. Unfourtunatley, DLC is needed in some aspects. In fact, one could argue that Mew from Pokémon Red & Blue was the progenitor of all DLC due to its requirements to obtain. 

 

 

Ultimately, such practices are now common place throughout. Does it make it right? No. Companies like Activision are going to continue to support their titles in such a way to help it maintain relevance. Are there alternatives? Yes. Capcom is allowing gamers to unlock DLC in game without purchase via Street Fighter V (I like this way the most).  Such inconvenient miss haps may hurt the game (Evolve) or find *new ways (the original way) to compensate for the current issue (SFV). 

 

At the end of the day, you as a gamer ultimately call the shots. Vote with your wallet, as you and millions of other gamers have more power than you believe. Should the current games that support these actions dissatisfy you, games like Einhander, Baulder's Gate, Secret of Manager and Super Turrican 2 will still be there (just be sure to know that your wallet will pay for it). Otherwise, you still have companies like Atlas, Seed, NIS America and others to support.

To this day it still baffles me that everyone accept so easily the dual releases of pokemon every time and we see flock of people buying both (and having 2 HH to be able to trade)... but then defend that Nintendo is the only consumer friendly that don't put DLC and other things in games (until they started doing and them in the specifics cases that Nintendo done it became acceptable).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
OnlyForDisplay said:


That may be. However, the HD era has brought its own form of well polished titles. You are right, some developers (for that matter publishers) should consider a push back if the game isn't functioning properly. At the same token, as many others have stated, broken games will have to happen. I am not sure entirely by what you are stating (my apologizes) regarding broken software, but if DLC and micro-transactions are a major detracting factor, I do agree. The way Evolve handled the whole mess is why I myself generally do not buy either or. Unfourtunatley, DLC is needed in some aspects. In fact, one could argue that Mew from Pokémon Red & Blue was the progenitor of all DLC due to its requirements to obtain. 

 

 

Ultimately, such practices are now common place throughout. Does it make it right? No. Companies like Activision are going to continue to support their titles in such a way to help it maintain relevance. Are there alternatives? Yes. Capcom is allowing gamers to unlock DLC in game without purchase via Street Fighter V (I like this way the most).  Such inconvenient miss haps may hurt the game (Evolve) or find *new ways (the original way) to compensate for the current issue (SFV). 

 

At the end of the day, you as a gamer ultimately call the shots. Vote with your wallet, as you and millions of other gamers have more power than you believe. Should the current games that support these actions dissatisfy you, games like Einhander, Baulder's Gate, Secret of Manager and Super Turrican 2 will still be there (just be sure to know that your wallet will pay for it). Otherwise, you still have companies like Atlas, Seed, NIS America and others to support.

To this day it still baffles me that everyone accept so easily the dual releases of pokemon every time and we see flock of people buying both (and having 2 HH to be able to trade)... but then defend that Nintendo is the only consumer friendly that don't put DLC and other things in games (until they started doing and them in the specifics cases that Nintendo done it became acceptable).


Well didnt they that even on the gba?



 

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http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

xl-klaudkil said:
DonFerrari said:

To this day it still baffles me that everyone accept so easily the dual releases of pokemon every time and we see flock of people buying both (and having 2 HH to be able to trade)... but then defend that Nintendo is the only consumer friendly that don't put DLC and other things in games (until they started doing and them in the specifics cases that Nintendo done it became acceptable).


Well didnt they that even on the gba?

From what I saw, there wasn't complain about the pratice.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Guitarguy said:
DonFerrari said:

Well that will be great, have a list of wanted games already?


Definitely! Rayman(might be hard to get and expensive though...), Doom, Alien Vs Predator, Zool 2, Syndicate, Cannon Fodder, Flashback etc. Would love a Pro controller but they go for $300US now....


$300?  I'll sell you mine for $100  :P

 

https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/productDetailColorSizePicker.jsp?productId=prod10396

 



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DonFerrari said:
xl-klaudkil said:


Well didnt they that even on the gba?

From what I saw, there wasn't complain about the pratice.


That's what i ment hahahahah



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

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slab_of_bacon said:
Guitarguy said:


Definitely! Rayman(might be hard to get and expensive though...), Doom, Alien Vs Predator, Zool 2, Syndicate, Cannon Fodder, Flashback etc. Would love a Pro controller but they go for $300US now....


$300?  I'll sell you mine for $100  :P

 

https://store.nintendo.com/ng3/browse/productDetailColorSizePicker.jsp?productId=prod10396

 

Haha I see what you did there!



xl-klaudkil said:
DonFerrari said:

From what I saw, there wasn't complain about the pratice.


That's what i ment hahahahah


Well, Nintendo can do no wrong



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
xl-klaudkil said:


That's what i ment hahahahah


Well, Nintendo can do no wrong


I know what you mean, i bet a lot of nintendo fanboys are like " omg amiibo is soo inovative!!!"

 

and i bet if sony does something like that 2 its like" omg sony is copying nintendo again!!!"

 

but,who cares.



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil

xl-klaudkil said:
DonFerrari said:


Well, Nintendo can do no wrong


I know what you mean, i bet a lot of nintendo fanboys are like " omg amiibo is soo inovative!!!"

 

and i bet if sony does something like that 2 its like" omg sony is copying nintendo again!!!"

 

but,who cares.


Well, if they do today it would be copying... but if they done before it would be like "this is a nick and dimmel tatic, making people buy cheap plastic for over 15 dollars to unlock special content that they will have to pay again"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
xl-klaudkil said:


I know what you mean, i bet a lot of nintendo fanboys are like " omg amiibo is soo inovative!!!"

 

and i bet if sony does something like that 2 its like" omg sony is copying nintendo again!!!"

 

but,who cares.


Well, if they do today it would be copying... but if they done before it would be like "this is a nick and dimmel tatic, making people buy cheap plastic for over 15 dollars to unlock special content that they will have to pay again"

Indeed! but ow well who are we to talk down on the god thats nintendo!



 

My youtube gaming page.

http://www.youtube.com/user/klaudkil