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Goodnightmoon on 22 August 2015
Qwark said:
Nintendo may have saven the industrie but Sony Let the industrie to bloom again and continue doing this. Diversity is Key even now Sony comes with until dawn and Dreams and creates New genres. In which they are kind of unique, unlike Nintendo which is operating mostly in there safe zone of 2d platformers, partygames, sportgames and games From an era where Nintendo had bigger balls, like Zelda, Metroid and Starfox and Pikmin aND rarely a new IP. Whereas Sony dares to write of succesfull IP's as uncharted Jack and probably GOW after GOW 4 to create something New like TLOU.

On the last 15 years Nintendo has created and/or published:

- Pikmin
- Animal Crossing (28 milion sold)
- Chibi Robot
- Advance Wars
- Golden Sun
- Wii Sport (best selling game ever)
- Wii Fit
- Xenoblade 
- Brain Age (35 milion sold)
- Rythym Paradise 
- Nintendogs ( 30 milion sold)
- Picross
- Inazuma Eleven
- The last Story
- Pandora´s Tower
- Nintendoland
- Todomachi Life 
- The wonderfull 101 
- Splatoon (already the most popular online shooter in Japan history)

All new Ips and I´m leaving some out, there are still more, so your argument about new Ips is invalid. But not only that, Nintendo has taken risks changing their own a IP on radical ways instead of being the same all over again, compare games like Mario sunshine, Mario galaxy and Super Mario Maker, or Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and a link between worlds, or Kid Icarus vs Kid Icarus uprising and you see HUGE changes, they also convert their Ips in new stuff like in Luigi´s Mansion or Captain Toad, same ips, totally different games. Now compare that to the changes on Jak and daxter, Uncharted, GOW etc, they are almost no difference, and no risk.




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arcaneguyver on 22 August 2015

The only difference is that Sony doesn't rely on a stable of mascot characters to continually remind people of, and cash in on, past achievements. As a brand, PS has earned its place.



Aeolus451 on 22 August 2015
DerNebel said:
Wright said:

No way. You see people all the time asking for Nintento to go third party, but rarely hear about wanting for Sony to go bankrupt and selling their games to other companies. Why? Because they know who's the real icon here.

This is asking about PlayStation, not about Sony franchises.


Several people are getting confused about it as well.



AZWification on 22 August 2015
Ka-pi96 said:
AZWification said:

PlayStation consoles could be considered more iconic than Ninty consoles, but Nintendo's franchises will probably remain the most iconic. You just can't compete with the likes of Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Zelda, etc..

Can't you? Mario & Pokemon are still big but Donkey Kong? Halo/Uncharted and the like absolutely wipe the floor with Donkey Kong. And as for Zelda... well there are people that don't even know the name of the main character in that so...

I would argue that Zelda and DK are bigger than  other ( or at least on par) "big" Sony/MS franchises like God of War and Gears of War though.



                
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Aeolus451 on 22 August 2015
AZWification said:
Ka-pi96 said:
AZWification said:

PlayStation consoles could be considered more iconic than Ninty consoles, but Nintendo's franchises will probably remain the most iconic. You just can't compete with the likes of Mario, Pokemon, Donkey Kong, Zelda, etc..

Can't you? Mario & Pokemon are still big but Donkey Kong? Halo/Uncharted and the like absolutely wipe the floor with Donkey Kong. And as for Zelda... well there are people that don't even know the name of the main character in that so...

I would argue that Zelda and DK are bigger than  other ( or at least on par) "big" Sony/MS franchises like God of War and Gears of War though.


The majority of gamers can live without a zelda or DK game. Nintendo's franchises use to be a big deal to gamers but it hasn't been in a long time. Otherwise, people would be buying their console to play those games but people don't. I think gamers as a whole care more about COD, GTA, forza, TLOU and halo than what nintendo has to offer. 



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KungKras on 22 August 2015

They became big because they were the first generic third-party-box, Sony isn't even as iconic as Sega.



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ArchangelMadzz on 22 August 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Qwark said:
Nintendo may have saven the industrie but Sony Let the industrie to bloom again and continue doing this. Diversity is Key even now Sony comes with until dawn and Dreams and creates New genres. In which they are kind of unique, unlike Nintendo which is operating mostly in there safe zone of 2d platformers, partygames, sportgames and games From an era where Nintendo had bigger balls, like Zelda, Metroid and Starfox and Pikmin aND rarely a new IP. Whereas Sony dares to write of succesfull IP's as uncharted Jack and probably GOW after GOW 4 to create something New like TLOU.

On the last 15 years Nintendo has created and/or published:

- Pikmin
- Animal Crossing (28 milion sold)
- Chibi Robot
- Advance Wars
- Golden Sun
- Wii Sport (best selling game ever)
- Wii Fit
- Xenoblade 
- Brain Age (35 milion sold)
- Rythym Paradise 
- Nintendogs ( 30 milion sold)
- Picross
- Inazuma Eleven
- The last Story
- Pandora´s Tower
- Nintendoland
- Todomachi Life 
- The wonderfull 101 
- Splatoon (already the most popular online shooter in Japan history)

All new Ips and I´m leaving some out, there are still more, so your argument about new Ips is invalid. But not only that, Nintendo has taken risks changing their own a IP on radical ways instead of being the same all over again, compare games like Mario sunshine, Mario galaxy and Super Mario Maker, or Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and a link between worlds, or Kid Icarus vs Kid Icarus uprising and you see HUGE changes, they also convert their Ips in new stuff like in Luigi´s Mansion or Captain Toad, same ips, totally different games. Now compare that to the changes on Jak and daxter, Uncharted, GOW etc, they are almost no difference, and no risk.

"best selling game ever" you're right but come on. If knack was a ps2 game and was bundled with every ps2 it'd be the best selling game ever. That's more an achievement for the wii than it is for wii sports.



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Wright on 22 August 2015
DerNebel said:

This is asking about PlayStation, not about Sony franchises.


And what made Playstation, aside from Sony franchises and healthy third-party support?



DerNebel on 22 August 2015
Goodnightmoon said:
Qwark said:
Nintendo may have saven the industrie but Sony Let the industrie to bloom again and continue doing this. Diversity is Key even now Sony comes with until dawn and Dreams and creates New genres. In which they are kind of unique, unlike Nintendo which is operating mostly in there safe zone of 2d platformers, partygames, sportgames and games From an era where Nintendo had bigger balls, like Zelda, Metroid and Starfox and Pikmin aND rarely a new IP. Whereas Sony dares to write of succesfull IP's as uncharted Jack and probably GOW after GOW 4 to create something New like TLOU.

On the last 15 years Nintendo has created and/or published:

- Pikmin
- Animal Crossing (28 milion sold)
- Chibi Robot
- Advance Wars
- Golden Sun
- Wii Sport (best selling game ever)
- Wii Fit
- Xenoblade 
- Brain Age (35 milion sold)
- Rythym Paradise 
- Nintendogs ( 30 milion sold)
- Picross
- Inazuma Eleven
- The last Story
- Pandora´s Tower
- Nintendoland
- Todomachi Life 
- The wonderfull 101 
- Splatoon (already the most popular online shooter in Japan history)

All new Ips and I´m leaving some out, there are still more, so your argument about new Ips is invalid. But not only that, Nintendo has taken risks changing their own a IP on radical ways instead of being the same all over again, compare games like Mario sunshine, Mario galaxy and Super Mario Maker, or Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and a link between worlds, or Kid Icarus vs Kid Icarus uprising and you see HUGE changes, they also convert their Ips in new stuff like in Luigi´s Mansion or Captain Toad, same ips, totally different games. Now compare that to the changes on Jak and daxter, Uncharted, GOW etc, they are almost no difference, and no risk.

So what you're trying to say here is that Sony isn't taking risks with their games? L-O-L.

But yeah going from Super Mario Sunshine to Super Mario Galaxy, now that's taking a risk. Pffffffff.



Goodnightmoon on 22 August 2015
ArchangelMadzz said:
Goodnightmoon said:

On the last 15 years Nintendo has created and/or published:

- Pikmin
- Animal Crossing (28 milion sold)
- Chibi Robot
- Advance Wars
- Golden Sun
- Wii Sport (best selling game ever)
- Wii Fit
- Xenoblade 
- Brain Age (35 milion sold)
- Rythym Paradise 
- Nintendogs ( 30 milion sold)
- Picross
- Inazuma Eleven
- The last Story
- Pandora´s Tower
- Nintendoland
- Todomachi Life 
- The wonderfull 101 
- Splatoon (already the most popular online shooter in Japan history)

All new Ips and I´m leaving some out, there are still more, so your argument about new Ips is invalid. But not only that, Nintendo has taken risks changing their own a IP on radical ways instead of being the same all over again, compare games like Mario sunshine, Mario galaxy and Super Mario Maker, or Zelda Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and a link between worlds, or Kid Icarus vs Kid Icarus uprising and you see HUGE changes, they also convert their Ips in new stuff like in Luigi´s Mansion or Captain Toad, same ips, totally different games. Now compare that to the changes on Jak and daxter, Uncharted, GOW etc, they are almost no difference, and no risk.

"best selling game ever" you're right but come on. If knack was a ps2 game and was bundled with every ps2 it'd be the best selling game ever. That's more an achievement for the wii than it is for wii sports.

No, Wii sport was a huge reason why the wii sold as much, lots of people were introduced to the console because that game and the revolution of Wii is tied with wii sports.