The father definitely wanted her dead. He should be charged with murder. There's no other reason as to why he wouldn't let the lifeguards help her.
The father definitely wanted her dead. He should be charged with murder. There's no other reason as to why he wouldn't let the lifeguards help her.
Ka-pi96 said:
Well I didn't personally think anything of the joke, but some people might have been offended by it. Making jokes about people dying isn't necessarily bad but it is pretty risky and more often than not you are going to get people that don't like it. It's usually one of those topics that you really need to know the people you're talking to before going for jokes like that, if you're with a group of friends or like-minded people then it's more likely to be well received that putting it out in the open for everyone. |
I agree it's risky, but I think that's kind of the result you get, when a subject(s) are deemed 'off-limits'. Know what I mean? And yeah, I agree, some jokes you would only risk saying to close friends who understand your sense of humor.
the-pi-guy said:
Yes cultures differ widely, and those differences should be respected, but there's a point where I can not possibly agree. In the west, there has been lots of things that haven't been good. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_witch_trials https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States
To this day, lots of terrible things have occured in our culture. And lots of things continue to happen in our world/our culture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_United_States
Doesn't mean we are going to say "well, that's part of our culture, we can't judge." We are still going to look down on these things, because people are getting hurt. The daughter was being asked to be saved. This is from the article. "The kids were swimming in the beach when suddenly, the 20-year-old girl started drowning and screaming for help." Would someone just say "well, it's part of our culture, we can't help you." |
+1. This story is so stupid and the death was easily preventable. You can't claim ethnocentrism when a life is at risk, I'm sorry. Just like I refuse to believe I'm being ethnocentric when I disagree with female genital mutilation. In some cultures they think it's cool to cut a 2nd vagina so they can keep their women "pure" by fucking a man-made hole instead. I don't give a fuck if the Queen endorsed it that is the most fucked up shit I have ever heard, and saying that it is ok because "it is in their culture" is not an excuse. Might as well extend that logic to saying it's ok to stone a woman to death because she was raped and is thus unpure. FUCK THAT AND FUCK THAT SHITTY EXCUSE FOR LOGIC.
Sorry if I blew it a little out of proportion but this story is rage-inducing and I will never believe the "differenct culture" excuse when someone's well-being is at risk in such a manner.
ReimTime said:
Sorry if I blew it a little out of proportion but this story is rage-inducing and I will never believe the "differenct culture" excuse when someone's well-being is at risk in such a manner. |
I see no issue with anything you've said. If this disturbs anyone's faith, I question the strength of their faith to begin with.
Lafiel said:
I vehemently disagree with that man's sense of "honor", but I won't subscribe to a "he wanted her to die" theory without further evidence, I think he simply couldn't swim (and hindered the people who were able and willing to help her .. so fucked up *sigh*) |
I don't think that he wanted her to die and his sense of honor and morale is totally fucked up to me even though I guess it is the norm in his culture, but my point is that you don't just let a beloved person die like that, even though the guy didn't know how to swim I would expect a loving father to be willing to sacrifice himself to save his daughter, hasn't anybody here played Heavy Rain? : P . Maybe my morale is fucked up too, but to me he's just a coward and stupid because in the end whoever that recovered the body had to touch it anyway.
I bet the "asian" family was actually Pakistani or Indian. They are the only ones with such twisted views on what constitutes "honor".
Truely disgusting
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It's things like that further persuade me to become a misanthrope bit by bit.