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They can probably come in at below the X1 with a hybrid, being a portable as well I can see them being willing to sell at a loss or sell for no profit at first to make it even more affordable because the would be powerful sellers like Pokemon on the way so they can recoup costs from software.



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forethought14 said:
I don't understand why some people expect only a GC to Wii jump for the console, there are plenty of options out there that are both reasonable, and provide a moderate jump in raw power. The R7 250X for example has 640 shaders (at 1ghz it's a little over 1 TF) and under mass production, will run well under a hundred USD alone, and we'll likely say good-bye to the PowerPC CPU once and for all as a central processor hopefully (will be funny if we end up with 8 Espresso cores). Wii U's processors were likely chosen around 2009 (console form was decided in April 2009, and the GPU is 2008/2009 tech), the console this time if it's launching 2016/2017 will have likely have had their processors chosen already (2013/2014 tech). There's literally no reason for them to only have a 1.5x Wii U jump even if they're targeting $199.99. A 640 shader GPU may not be at PS4 power, but it's doable at a decent price without an expensive gimmick and will make them profits. At $249.99, maybe we can expect a 768 shader part instead, which at 1Ghz would put it around XB1 power. I know we expected a lot from Wii U and ended up with a rather weak machine, but it was still significantly more powerful than Wii. Why people expect an overclocked Wii U for the NX console is beyond mii...

The handheld has no problem significantly surpassing the 3DS, though I don't expect a 199.99 price tag. If NXDS is released next year, at $149.99 we can expect something moderately better than Vita in power...as long as they don't have some expensive gimmick.

If they went for a costum AMD chip, it might not be crazy to think they picked 2016/2017 tech that AMD was still working on at the time.



Would be cool if they end up using tegra x1 successor... They would have a portable console with considerable power and android compatibility.



I think it will be a fusion between handheld and home console. From the power I think it will be between PS3 and Xbox One.



Apple is selling the new iPod touch for $199 (the same A8-SoC as in the iPhone 6, 1136x640 resolution, 1 GB RAM, 16 GB flash memory) and they don't sell hardware without a big profit margin: https://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/

http://www.imore.com/ipod-touch-2015-review

So the NX-handheld could be in that performance area.



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Conina said:

Apple is selling the new iPod touch for $199 (the same A8-SoC as in the iPhone 6, 1136x640 resolution, 1 GB RAM, 16 GB flash memory) and they don't sell hardware without a big profit margin: https://www.apple.com/ipod-touch/

http://www.imore.com/ipod-touch-2015-review

So the NX-handheld could be in that performance area.


Good point. The A8 outperforms the Vita by a mile too on a higher res display. Keep in mind too the NX is like 16 months out from launch too ... what they could probably get in this price range could very well be more comparable to the A9 chip coming this fall. 

Also since Nintendo likely will go for a lower resolution (ish) screen (1280x720 perhaps) ... such a chip could really cook in a portable. 



$250 for the home part, $175 for the portable and $400 getting both bundled: at these prices and releasing not earlier than Q4 2016, both home and portable NX will be able to slightly outperform even the fastest previous gen competitor. $200 for the home console would be too little, unless it release not earlier than 2017.
If Ninty doesn't want that it happen again that multiplats get their Ninty versions cancelled because adding features during development they became too large, RAM must be not smaller than competitors' one, so it will have to be large enough even for 9th gen standards. Graphics RAM and GPU performances can be slightly smaller than future 9th gen competitors, as long as they stay above the lower HW limits of games engines scalability.



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Ultrashroomz said:
They'd be pretty underwhelming, probably even compared to the PS4.


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Honesty I think it would be good if nintendo aimed their console to be able to get the same 3rd party games as the PS4/XB1 but maybe at a lower resolution so they could still undercut them in price. So a game could be 1080p on PS4, 900 on X1 and 720 on the Next Ninty home console. I don't think there's any point making it more powerful than the PS4 as 3rd parties probably would not take advantage of it, and I don't think Nintendo games would really need it either. Nintendo have the advantage of knowing how powerful their competitors are and can set the specs for their next machine so that they do not need to spend more than they have to.



Similar/slightly more powerful than the PS Vita?