Locked: Calling all Nintendo fans, It's time to stop enabling Nintendo's failures

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midrange on 21 July 2015

V-r0cK said:
I agree with the OP for the most part.

I really dislike the really serious Nintendo fans that truly believes that Nintendo ONLY makes quality games. Like seriously stop kidding yourself, Nintendo's made some mediocre games too.

Or whenever a third party says they have trouble with the hardware (which is universally deemed weak to today's standards), it's always because they are not trying

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97alexk on 21 July 2015

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Hello my friends, let's have a chat. Nintendo is a failure. No, that's too harsh. Nintendo is a failure this gen. Why? Because they're about to finish with their worst selling console and handheld ever. The WiiU will be lucky to crack 15m sales this generation. The Gamecube was a gigantic disaster of epic proportions and even that managed to sell 20m consoles. The WiiU can't even keep pace with the Vita. And almost all games that release on the platform flop spectacularly. That makes the WiiU a toxic platform for games in addition to being an outright disaster.

Now what about the 3DS. Well it's not quite the flop the WiiU is but it's still a massive dissapointment. The 3DS is on track to sell maybe 65m units lifetime. Worst selling Nintendo handheld ever. Not even half of what the DS pulled. Even getting clowned by the PSP and getting wrecked by Apple and Google.

So what's my point? Well I just wanted to let everyone that it's time to stop defending Nintendo on everything. Nintendo fans, God bless them, have a tendency to never want to criticize their favorite company. That's not okay. You need to let Nintendo know when they've screwed up. You need to look them in the eyes and tell them that the WiiU is an unacceptable platform. Tell them to stop funding crap like Devil's Third.Tell them to stop prioritizing gimmicks over core gameplay that people actually want. Tell them to stop letting 3rd parties like Slightly Mad Studios abandon the console because they can't release competent hardware.

If you never criticize Nintendo, they'll never learn from their mistakes. This is a good thing.

Thoughts?

Someone seems a straight out nintendo hater. 3DS is not a dissapointment, it sells very very good. 65 lifetime is not bad at all. I dont see what you see as an success, just because the last gen of consoles was sooooo good selling doesnt mean anything below that is bad.

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97alexk on 21 July 2015

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So, the fans enabled Nintendo by NOT buying the Wii U in droves? I think the sales speak for themselves when it comes to the fans dissatisfaction with Nintendo at the moment.

What else would you like fans to do? We speak with our pockets, and the people have spoken.

I think alot is the opposite, Nintendo fans love the Wii U, amazing games and more upcoming amazing games. The Wii U sales are not because nintendo fans are dissapointed

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pokoko on 21 July 2015

But Devil's Third is probably going to be a better game than Godzilla. Who is the failure now, huh?

Seriously, the only thing that really bothers me is when someone saying that Nintendo shouldn't watch the rest of the industry to see what people are enjoying. That's just flat out ridiculous and a path to failure. ALWAYS look for ways to improve your consumer experience, no matter where the idea came from.

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Mnementh on 21 July 2015

Fusioncode said:

If you never criticize Nintendo, they'll never learn from their mistakes. This is a good thing.

Thoughts?

Defending Nintendo in forums and never criticize them isn't enabling for failure. Nintendo is a company. They want to make money. If they make money with something, they will probably do it. If not, then they will drop it. Fanboy discussions on VGC doesn't influence Nintendo (or Sony or MS for this matter). So everyone, feel free to mouth your opinion.

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Clyde32 on 21 July 2015

V-r0cK said:
I agree with the OP for the most part.

I really dislike the really serious Nintendo fans that truly believes that Nintendo ONLY makes quality games. Like seriously stop kidding yourself, Nintendo's made some mediocre games too.

Don't believe you'll see many Nintendo fans defending Metroid Other M, or even mentioning Paper Mario Sticker Star.

The good quality games just far outweigh the bad quality ones. There are enough good quality to make up the difference.

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97alexk on 21 July 2015

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I have always seen Nintendo fans as the most critical of their company. How much more whiny can you get?

lol yeah and no xD Nintendo fans can be the most complaining and the most defending fans out there.

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97alexk on 21 July 2015

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V-r0cK said:
I agree with the OP for the most part.

I really dislike the really serious Nintendo fans that truly believes that Nintendo ONLY makes quality games. Like seriously stop kidding yourself, Nintendo's made some mediocre games too.

Don't believe you'll see many Nintendo fans defending Metroid Other M, or even mentioning Paper Mario Sticker Star.

The good quality games just far outweigh the bad quality ones. There are enough good quality to make up the difference.

I will take up the task to defend Metrid Other M, and this is coming from a huge metroid fan :)

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Fusioncode said:

Hello my friends, let's have a chat. Nintendo is a failure. No, that's too harsh. Nintendo is a failure this gen. Why? Because they're about to finish with their worst selling console and handheld ever. The WiiU will be lucky to crack 15m sales this generation. The Gamecube was a gigantic disaster of epic proportions and even that managed to sell 20m consoles. The WiiU can't even keep pace with the Vita. And almost all games that release on the platform flop spectacularly. That makes the WiiU a toxic platform for games in addition to being an outright disaster.

Now what about the 3DS. Well it's not quite the flop the WiiU is but it's still a massive dissapointment. The 3DS is on track to sell maybe 65m units lifetime. Worst selling Nintendo handheld ever. Not even half of what the DS pulled. Even getting clowned by the PSP and getting wrecked by Apple and Google.

So what's my point? Well I just wanted to let everyone that it's time to stop defending Nintendo on everything. Nintendo fans, God bless them, have a tendency to never want to criticize their favorite company. That's not okay. You need to let Nintendo know when they've screwed up. You need to look them in the eyes and tell them that the WiiU is an unacceptable platform. Tell them to stop funding crap like Devil's Third.Tell them to stop prioritizing gimmicks over core gameplay that people actually want. Tell them to stop letting 3rd parties like Slightly Mad Studios abandon the console because they can't release competent hardware.

If you never criticize Nintendo, they'll never learn from their mistakes. This is a good thing.

Thoughts?

Someone seems a straight out nintendo hater. 3DS is not a dissapointment, it sells very very good. 65 lifetime is not bad at all. I dont see what you see as an success, just because the last gen of consoles was sooooo good selling doesnt mean anything below that is bad.

He didn't just compare it to last gen handhelds, he compared it to all Nintendo handhelds. Being the worst selling Nintendo handheld of all time is a dissapointment.