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traveler72 on 20 July 2015
shikamaru317 said:
traveler72 said:
 

Neither option is a hybrid. as was said before, one option has two hardwares  and the other just a handheld, not to mention neither is a viable idea.

You are right that the next handheld should release for $199 with slightly better than ps360 hardware. The next home console, however, can't be slightly more powerfull than ps4 for as much as $299. a hardware slightly more powerfull than ps4 would cost $199 at launch in 2016/2017. The most probable option is a console considerably above ps4 costing $299 at launch. they will only use hardware at the same level as ps4 if there's something REALLY revolutionary about it.

PS4 and XB1 won't cost $199 by Holiday 2016 or even Holiday 2017, not sure why you think Nintendo would be able to offer better than PS4 graphics for $199 in 2016/2017. Nintendo doesn't like selling hardware at a loss, they've proven that with Wii U.

Ps4 could already be retailing for $299 right now and definetely $199 sometime in 2017. A console with similar hardware power but modern components could save some bucks in a few areas and retail for $199 late 2016, either breaking even or at a small loss (no loss if released in 2017).



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Teeqoz on 20 July 2015

Achievements/trophies would be nice.



Smear-Gel on 20 July 2015
yvanjean said:
Smear-Gel said:


Pick one


The price tag is really important because most of us will own either a PS4 or Xbox One. It's important to note that the NX is going to try to attract customer to basicly play Nintendo specific games. Therefore the price is very important they simply can't expect us PS4 & Xbox one owner to fork over $400-500.... even $299 is a stretch. 

The WiiU would often be critized by developper for lack of power and gamer for dreadful loading time. The NX doesn't need to focus on 4k and Virtual reality type of hardware output it simly need to able to produce HD graphic and faster load time for that it will need something much more powerful then the WiiU but staying withing the price point of of under $299.99. The increase in power that I mention is not to future proof the console but rather to bring the future Nintendo console up to HD standard and performance. The NX will be much less powerful then Xbox one and PS4 that's a given.

 


Well it's gonna be a handheld imo so lower power is a given, yeah.

But expecting them to make the hardware vastly more powerful and yet lowering the price to something Wii U isnt even at yet is really, really pushing it. If it was a console.



Jumpin on 20 July 2015

Not much, I just want a better output of games than what Wii U had. Price doesn't matter.

1. The system should have a AAA Mario and a AAA Zelda during the first year. So if it launches Christmas 2016, by Christmas 2017 both Legend of Zelda: Open World Adventure and Super Mario Galaxy 3 should be released, preferably Zelda in 2016 and Mario in 2017.
2. I also want RPGs, minimum 2 good ones per year - Xenoblade, Fire Emblem, Tales games, whatever. Xenoblade Chronicles X. If Nintendo can get back Dragon Quest, all the better! Ports of Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, and X would be above and beyond! I don't care about the ones afterwards, except for the FF7 remake.
3. Much bigger Virtual console access. More up to date hardware should have access to MORE games, not less. Right now the Wii has WAY more Virtual Console games than Wii U, and better ones too.
4. Have at least 3 other A/AAA titles to show off for the future: like the next Xenoblade, Mario Kart 9, New Super Mario Bros, Pokemon, 3D Donkey Kong Country, etc...
5. Have at least 5 B games per year like: Super Mario 3D World, Kirby, Lylat Wars, Advance Wars, Metroid, 2D Donkey Kong, Smash, Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Wario, F-Zero, etc...



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Stellar_Fungk on 20 July 2015

More roleplaying games. Internal HDD so I don't have to buy an external one. Voice chat, ingame notifications, achievements so some people can shut up.
A VC with a good library of SNES and Gamecube games. And I would also like Nintendo to start making some strategy games (if they decide to keep the gamepad), 'cause that control is made for those type of games. Maybe a deal with 2k so the NX gets some Civilization games. 




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slab_of_bacon on 20 July 2015

I would like to have the ability to take my Wii U controllers and use them on Nintendo's next console, especially the gamepad. I would also like to see a pro controller and gamepad with analog Z buttons. In terms of games I would love to see some more PC ports like Grand Theft Auto 5 and No Man's Sky for it as well (frankly I'd like all my games on one piece of hardware but that just won't happen).



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gabzjmm23 on 21 July 2015
traveler72 said:
gabzjmm23 said:

1.they need to get 3rd party big games in order for them to have better sales. they are in the middle of the current gen (PS4/X1), why would gamers buy another console that is subpar to PS4/X1 to play 3rd party games. and it would be an excuse for those gamers who won't buy an NX version since it is an inferior port....

2.they need to diversify and market more IPs outside the Marios, Zeldas, Kirby, Yoshi.  They need to have more on Samus Aran, Bayo 3, etc...

3.collaborate with 3rd party of NX versions, why? because Nintendo knows, 3rd party alone coming to NX won't deliver and sales won't be great. again a chicken and egg, 3rd party supported a bit, sales aren't great, so they'll pull out. but gamers who reviewed and bought those Nintendo ports are worst than PS/MS counterparts... so collaborating it in terms of market and trying to finesse the game more...

4.again, a gamepad is not your typical normal controller. neither was the WiiMote.  Gamecube's design is radical and so was the WaveBird.  They really like innovation but not all innovative controllers are great.  We knew Wii as a whole is a successful but does all gamers love it? can you really play a ton of games using the WiiMote? and why would Nintendo released a Classic controller?

5.Classic controller or the Pro controller is the normal hardcore gamer wants, just use your two hands and play it like how it is being played.  I know Nintendo can still pull off a new type of controller like a gamepad 2 with slick, thinner design and better resolution, but how much would it cost the next console?

6.Even Iwata mentioned why the Wii U sales aren't great, and the cost of the gamepad is a lot hence they can't lower the console's price that much.

seriously, what are you talking about?

1. we are in the middle of the current gen (wii u,ps4,x1) NOW, in 2017 it will be close to the end of it. what imaginary subpar console are you talking about? I already said the wii u sucessor (may or may not be NX) wouldn't bother with ps4/x1 level of power, it will be much higher.

2. It's very ignorant to say nintendo doesn't diversify their IP outside mario and zelda. every gen they make tons of games from the biggest and smallest franchises while trying new IPs.

3. 3rd party alone does deliver sales, it's that simple. we just can't expect 3rd parties to sell without releasing anything.

4. The wiimote wasn't a typical controller because it lacked some buttons but the gamepad IS a normal controller. nothing is loved by ALL gamers, but you can bet many hardcore gamers love the wii. Of course you can play a ton of games with the wiimote and nunchuck, what kind of question is that? a pro controller was released for virtual console games the wii mote and nunchuck couldn't play (because of buttons) and dual analogue for some wii games.

5. That's not what the hardcore gamer wants, it's simply what gamers got so far. Gamers want what is best. If something better shows up, gamers will prefer it, just like they prefered current controllers over the ones from previous generations. For example, a controller more or less shaped like a pro controller but it's actually two halfs that act as a wiimote and nunchuck is infinetely better than what currently exists. It would have the buttons that wiimote and nunchuck lacked and could be put together when motion controls aren't required.

The theoretical gamepad you described would certainly cost much less than the first one at wii u's launch.

6. really, check your facts. it was never mentioned they couldn't cut the console price because of the gamepad (that doesn't even make sense). iwata said they couldn't cut the price so far because of the yen, but that was a few months ago and it's very possible that a pricecut will come this year.


1. the Wii U is on its 3rd year and it is coming to its end with a speculation on its 4th year or the norm 5th year. X1 and PS4 released a year after. and their consoles normally are 6-7 years apart. so NX would really be on its early stage while PS4 and X1 may not yet in its last 2 years...

2. they are trying to diversify, but the effort seems lackluster hence they need other devs or SMEs on those genre rather than Nintendo alone and their small dev teams doing those M games which doesn't really sale a ton....

3. 3rd party games can sell, but 3rd party games on a Nintendo couldn't sell that much. besides power or being a lesser port/version. what else does Nintendo need on their console..... so collaborate and discuss what is needed. not just a 3rd party IP on a Nintendo console that couldn't really sell. create a new IP, crossover IPs, etc... be creative..

4. it is really a mix, of course wii would always be a blast on college students or anyone who wanted to play those motion control type of games. casual playing, but not your typical immersive 50 hour gameplay a gamer needs to put into. hence Nintendo released a classic controller on Wii.

5. i don't know what else gamers need to really play a game. if you create a poll or survey, you really think innovative controllers would their top pick to use for gaming? it would really hard to sell other type of controller. most gamers use the PS4/X1/Pro Controller for most games and Mouse and Keyboard on PC gaming especially shooters. 

6. it was one of the articles about Nintendo's interview... and yes i remember the yen part too. will try to find the articles related to that one. 



etking on 21 July 2015

M-rated AAA games like Perfect Dark and Goldeneye, made by a first party team or a dark Zelda game made for grown up gamers. More seriuos games and high quality games that can be enjoyed by older players in general. Games like Shenmue 3.



traveler72 on 21 July 2015
shikamaru317 said:
Teeqoz said:
Achievements/trophies would be nice.

Agreed 100%.

But that's already there and doesn't matter.



traveler72 on 21 July 2015
gabzjmm23 said:
traveler72 said:

seriously, what are you talking about?

1. we are in the middle of the current gen (wii u,ps4,x1) NOW, in 2017 it will be close to the end of it. what imaginary subpar console are you talking about? I already said the wii u sucessor (may or may not be NX) wouldn't bother with ps4/x1 level of power, it will be much higher.

2. It's very ignorant to say nintendo doesn't diversify their IP outside mario and zelda. every gen they make tons of games from the biggest and smallest franchises while trying new IPs.

3. 3rd party alone does deliver sales, it's that simple. we just can't expect 3rd parties to sell without releasing anything.

4. The wiimote wasn't a typical controller because it lacked some buttons but the gamepad IS a normal controller. nothing is loved by ALL gamers, but you can bet many hardcore gamers love the wii. Of course you can play a ton of games with the wiimote and nunchuck, what kind of question is that? a pro controller was released for virtual console games the wii mote and nunchuck couldn't play (because of buttons) and dual analogue for some wii games.

5. That's not what the hardcore gamer wants, it's simply what gamers got so far. Gamers want what is best. If something better shows up, gamers will prefer it, just like they prefered current controllers over the ones from previous generations. For example, a controller more or less shaped like a pro controller but it's actually two halfs that act as a wiimote and nunchuck is infinetely better than what currently exists. It would have the buttons that wiimote and nunchuck lacked and could be put together when motion controls aren't required.

The theoretical gamepad you described would certainly cost much less than the first one at wii u's launch.

6. really, check your facts. it was never mentioned they couldn't cut the console price because of the gamepad (that doesn't even make sense). iwata said they couldn't cut the price so far because of the yen, but that was a few months ago and it's very possible that a pricecut will come this year.


1. the Wii U is on its 3rd year and it is coming to its end with a speculation on its 4th year or the norm 5th year. X1 and PS4 released a year after. and their consoles normally are 6-7 years apart. so NX would really be on its early stage while PS4 and X1 may not yet in its last 2 years...

2. they are trying to diversify, but the effort seems lackluster hence they need other devs or SMEs on those genre rather than Nintendo alone and their small dev teams doing those M games which doesn't really sale a ton....

3. 3rd party games can sell, but 3rd party games on a Nintendo couldn't sell that much. besides power or being a lesser port/version. what else does Nintendo need on their console..... so collaborate and discuss what is needed. not just a 3rd party IP on a Nintendo console that couldn't really sell. create a new IP, crossover IPs, etc... be creative..

4. it is really a mix, of course wii would always be a blast on college students or anyone who wanted to play those motion control type of games. casual playing, but not your typical immersive 50 hour gameplay a gamer needs to put into. hence Nintendo released a classic controller on Wii.

5. i don't know what else gamers need to really play a game. if you create a poll or survey, you really think innovative controllers would their top pick to use for gaming? it would really hard to sell other type of controller. most gamers use the PS4/X1/Pro Controller for most games and Mouse and Keyboard on PC gaming especially shooters. 

6. it was one of the articles about Nintendo's interview... and yes i remember the yen part too. will try to find the articles related to that one. 

1. You really need to check history if you think ps/sony consoles last 6/7 years. besides last generation, only ps consoles really lasted exactly 6 years before being replaced, but those consoles released first. since ps4 released one year later than wii u and together with x1, we can expect a ps5 one year later than wii u's sucessor and again together with the next xbox. As, for speculation, its really useless when there's no information. Without oficcial claims, everything points to a wii u sucessor in 2017 and x1/ps4 in 2018. sony technically could wait untill 2019 but I don't think microsoft will wait that long and sony will follow them.

2. "Nintendo alone" has a lot of franchises and most are being used. there's no lackluster effort if every console gets dozens of quality titles besides mario and zelda.

3. What? of course 3rd party can sell "that much". new ips/crossovers are already being made and when you mentioned colaborations you talked about multiplatforms. exclusive collaborations are always being made.

4. No, the classic controller was mostly for VC. Wiimote + nunchuck was good already.

5.Gamers use those controllers pecause it's the only thing they have. But that's not what they want. they want the best, so they won't be opposed if something better shows up, like the evolved wiimote + nunchuck I described.

6. Yes, it was just the yen. I bet we'll see a pricecut this year.