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There's enough competetion anyway between Sony and MS to keep everyone honest. Three consoles doing the same thing is just overkill.



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the-pi-guy said:
Areym said:

Why, exactly?


Because competition is good.  Keeps quality high, and prices low, and shady business practices to a relative minimum.  

In the words of Nintendo, they don't compete with Sony and MS. So again, why?



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Areym said:
the-pi-guy said:


Because competition is good.  Keeps quality high, and prices low, and shady business practices to a relative minimum.  

In the words of Nintendo, they don't compete with Sony and MS. So again, why?

Maybe they don't compete in the Ultra HD powerful console that is also a multimedia powerhouseside of consoles, but costumers like having options. Look at the Wii, it opened a market none of the other companies knew it even existed. If Nintendo had "competed" that gen, those people wouldn't have joined the market, and probably the casual mobile market wouldn't have grown as much. Nintendo competes doing their own thing.



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Areym said:

 the words of Nintendo, they don't compete with Sony and MS. So again, why?

Nintendo and it's games for the last half decade are arguably not that influential anymore. So their not necessarily in direct competition with Sony and Microsoft. However, if NX (whatever it is) became a financial disaster, it could potentially have a negative impact on Ninty's software and support, even in the handheld space (which currently sits at about 53m). And that effects the people who mainly use Sony and Microsoft consoles and use a Nintendo console/handheld as a secondary gaming device.



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Burek said:
Ruler said:

People would notice because nintendo wouldnt have a reason making that much software anymore. Just look at sega and their IPs.



In a gaming world where one multiplat AAA console game in 18 months outsells the entire WiiU library of 30 months, and by a comfortable margin, it is obvious that Nintendo is just a minor league player in the industry.

I take it you had your blinkers on last gen? and that the 3DS doesnt exist?



Soundwave said:
StuOhQ said:


Everyone seems to neglect the fact that Nintendo made good money on every GCN and N64 sold. Many financial journals were quick to point out that Nintendo made more money on the Gamecube than Sony made on the PS2. Nintendo was sitting on mad loot before they even launched the Wii. That's why they turned down Microsoft's billion dollar offer for Xbox 2nd party exclusitivity. 

The NX can be a failure without ending Nintendo as we know it, so long as it's a profitable failure like the N64 and GCN. 


Somewhat misleading. The GameCube almost assuredly didn't make Nintendo more money than the PS2 did. However when you factor in GBA sales, which averaged about 18 million units a year (huge numbers) then yes they did make more overall profit than just the PS2 alone. 


If we talk about hardware, it is quite simple. The GC didn't cost as much to manufacture as the PS2 and therefore, even despite the price cuts the profits Were quite decent. The PS2 was selling a lot, but selling a lot at a loss per system means you are in a hole, and all future profits are neant to get you out of said hole. HW the GC likely made a slight profit and the PS2 a slight loss. The big killer is software, and despite Sony making considerable platform royalties on third parties their first party games didn't sell at the Nintendo level. Nintendo also edged out in software profits for this reason. Handhelds just make a small profit win a much larger one.



spemanig said:
zorg1000 said:

What if they are already planning something like that for NX? Some signs point to that being a possibility.

Nikkei rumors state NX will be Android-based.

Miyamoto stated they are not interested in high-end specs.

Iwata said they plan on surprising with NX.

Mobile games/apps are meant to provide advertising for NX.

What this could point to is a weak, casual focused, gimmick based console.


I mean, I don't think that will be the case. The Nikkei rumors were proven false. Miyamoto isn't making hardware decisions. Surprising doesn't mean weak. Mobile games aren't telling of the NX's hardware, but of Nintendo's brand expansion. I just don't see Nintendo making that sort of backseat console just yet. After the NX fails, absolutely. But not before one final swing.

All companies deny rumors whether or not they are true, they won't announce something until they are ready to announce.

Miyamoto isn't making the decisions, that however doesn't thane the fact that he said, "WE don't care about high-specs" key word is we as in Nintendo.

I didn't say surprising meant weak, although it along with saying things like new ways to play imply a new type of gimmick.

Iwata has said their mobile endeavors are going to be used as a way to promote and spread awareness of their dedicated gaming devices. Who primarily plays mobile games? Casuals, so it's a strong possibility they are aiming at them.

A weak, casual focused, gimmick based console is a very strong possibility and personally I'm fine with that. People give Wii a lot of shit but it had a ton of great games.



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I dont think a Wii U owner should wish NX success,, it's like saying " It's okay to spit on Wii U, i'll buy your next one even you forgot Wii U buyers, it's okay, i'll follow you no matter what :) " so i hope it wont be successful and force them to continue to support Wii U



Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:

 PS4: 17m   XB1: 10m    WiiU: 10m   Vita: 10m

 

Wii U is profitable and therefore is sucessfull. there's no basis in saying nintendo's whole future in the home console business depends on the sucess of a single console (that may be the 3ds sucessor, as far as we know).