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Ryng_Tolu said:

No, is not. Not even close. The PS2 peak is 22m. And how the fuck will PS4 beat PS2? there is no more a battle Wii VS PS4, now is PS2 VS PS4, and currently the PS2 is massacre PS4 in sales. Just for you see:

US sales PS2 ( 2002 ) PS4 ( 2015 )
jan 361.000 192.000
feb 417.000 342.000
mar 362.000 336.000
apr 205.000 174.000
may 524.000 152.000

If not even PS2 sold 25m, you can understand that is impossible for PS4 sell 25m / 30m ... you don't think?

we are living in a globalised world,PS2 mainly only competed in EUROPE,NORTH AMERICA and JAPAN

today sales in KOREA,MIDDLE EAST,RUSSIA,CHINA,INDIA,SOUTH AMERICA count big time

also people's spending on entertainment products is much much bigger after APPLE revolution even in USA,EUROPE and JAPAN

back then gaming was hardcore thing and Exclusives didn't do much as it was expected big exclusives will come on PS2 brand

 

you can clearly see this with 285million console sales last generation plus ANDROID,APLLE and STEAM gaming increase

you should be comparing PS4 with PS2 generation in no way.

 

And there are no GTA or Slim version that can change this, the PS4 will mever sell more than 2m in a holidays month, or 500k in the summer in the US, like will never sell always 30-50k all week in Japan.

PS4 SLIM and price-cut will be pretty big

and GTA6 TIMED Exclusivity itself cud give as big as 20million console push to PS4

PS4 sold 2.5m and 3.5m in NOV2014 and DEC2014 and PS4 was coming off tarnised PLAYSTATION and SONY brand and poor PS3 performance and high price and no games.

it will easily brek-through them in 2016-2017,its biggest years

JAPAN will be low,but that will easily be covered in other areas

I'm sorry, but the sales says difference ;) Wii sold in 2011 more than 10m, that's not a bad death, is a strong year, and Wii was probabily sell easy >7m in 2012 if was not for WIU, but even if we adding WIU, still, >5m in a year are great.

5m in a year is notall good when at one time everybody was saying that Wii was gonna beat PS2 and don't just look at the sales but also the support drop in the ending years

No is not. end of the discussion.

it is and will be in a couple of years





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ReactiveLeek44 said:

You've put a lot of work into typing all of that so I'll say good job, but 25-40% of that won't come to fruition.  There is no way that it can sell 140 million.  I think it will top out around 85-95 million due to this gen being shorter than the last one.


most of my prediction are sure shot even now

and no way this gen will be shorter,it will be equal to last generation 7-8years



0815user said:

i'm betting hard on vr and on morpheus because imo you need gamers and sonys first party studios to kickstart it properly before it'll become a mainstream device in everybodys houshold like tvs are.


VR will never be anything or anywhere near TV,It will be a universe away in success



enlightenedmaster said:
0815user said:

i'm betting hard on vr and on morpheus because imo you need gamers and sonys first party studios to kickstart it properly before it'll become a mainstream device in everybodys houshold like tvs are.


VR will never be anything or anywhere near TV,It will be a universe away in success

let's discuss that in 10 years from now.



enlightenedmaster said:

no it won't

if Nintendo release NX in 2016,no matter what it will bomb

And Nintendo can't make NX a success without third-party support.no fucking way are they fucking up again.I think WiiU and 3DS success kicked the shit out of their senses

that might have been Nintendo consoles in the past but noway in 2010's and 2020's,no company-not even APPLE can survive on its own.

and Nintendo,if they have to survive as a company and as a brand.they need to change BIG time.

GTA6 can easily be a TIMED exclusive.

Even if TAKE-TWO is aquired by Microsoft,it will do more bad than good for GTA as XBOX is not the biggest gaming brand and is not the most loved and globally and even in the USA,it will hurt GTA brand and sales and in the future might even outright kill GTA as franchise brand.

And most of all,it does'nt make product or financial sense for Microsoft and XBOX to be doing so atm.

First bold: You seem to think that since Sony and Xbox pretty much live and die on 3rd party support at this point that Nintendo needs to do the same to survive. The PlayStation and Xbox platforms cannot survive at this point without 3rd parties... Their success is highly dependant on them. Nintendo on the otherhand historically has had to. Clearly Nintendo overestimated the success they thought they would have with the 3ds/WiiU. Who know's how they'll respond... NX could be another financial failure, or a huge success. We simply don't know enough to assume anything at this point.

Second bold: Nope people who want to play the GTA brand will simply migrate to the platform it's available on. Didn't the 7th generation show that people have no problem migrating to the consoles that provides the games they want to play? No brand is immortal and anyone of them can rise and fall at any given time.



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0815user said:
enlightenedmaster said:


VR will never be anything or anywhere near TV,It will be a universe away in success

let's discuss that in 10 years from now.

acutally we don't even need to do that,its already a done deal

and we will know outright the fate of it another 8months



PenguinZ said:

First bold: You seem to think that since Sony and Xbox pretty much live and die on 3rd party support at this point that Nintendo needs to do the same to survive.

no i don't but PLAYSTATION and XBOX still need 3rd party very very much

The PlayStation and Xbox platforms cannot survive at this point without 3rd parties...

yes as PS4 without 3rd party wud do 40-50m at max and XBONE will do 20-30m at max

also 3rd party supporting other console willeven further damage PLAYSTATION and XBOX sales and after sometime outright kill the brands

Their success is highly dependant on them. Nintendo on the otherhand historically has had to.

that means nothing and especially today

also before Wii,Nintendo did depend alot on third party but nowhere near PLAYSTATTION and XBOX

and especially in today's world with ANDROID,APPLE,SONY,MICROSOFT..........they have no chance

Clearly Nintendo overestimated the success they thought they would have with the 3ds/WiiU.

not really as Wii was clearly an outright fad and helped BIG Time by PS3 bombing and even that failed in the end of Wii's life

3DS was mainly touted becuase DS success but Gameboy wasn't as succesful and PSP failed and also touchscreen tech coolness helped it a bit.Also Apple and Android success meant 3DS wan't gonna be anywhere near DS

I don't think even Nintendo believed that but i wouldn't be suprised as Nintendo has in the past foolishly believed in its consoles and success can easily make a company arrogant

Who know's how they'll respond... NX could be another financial failure, or a huge success. We simply don't know enough to assume anything at this point.

NX acutally seems to be somthing BIG as Nintendo seems to have some sense kicked into them BIG Time but we will have to see with Nintendo's past and SONY dominance and APPLE,GOOGLE,SAMSUNG,ANDROID entering the market and XBOX also dominating hardcore gamers

Second bold: Nope people who want to play the GTA brand will simply migrate to the platform it's available on. Didn't the 7th generation show that people have no problem migrating to the consoles that provides the games they want to play? No brand is immortal and anyone of them can rise and fall at any given time.

not really,thats only if both consoles are equally successfull and XBONE seems to be nowhere near that and looks like will be even fursther behind in 2 years and as much as 4:1 behind PS4 when generation 8 comes to an end

also PS3 bombing had alot to do with people migrating to X360

its stupid that you are comparing both the generations as they are completely different

no brand is immortal even APPLE or EXXON MOBILE

but when they are dominating,its hard to believe that they cannot shake the earth





enlightenedmaster said:
Aeolus451 said:

If sony is being "lazy" than what are the others doing? Also, you could of left out the wall of text and just had your predictions up there.

SONY has been outright lazy for the last 6months to 1year

 

others are just outright bombing and giving up but that doesn't mean SONY doesn't need to finish the game as NINTENDO and MICROSOFT can easily comeback


In what way is sony being lazy? If sony keeps up the momentum that it has, the gen is theirs. MS is showing no signs of catching up or surpassing the PS4. MS would have sell well in europe and I don't think it has yet. Sure, MS and nintendo both have a chance to catch up or beat sony but the likelyhood of that happening is quickly eroding away. 



Aeolus451 said:
enlightenedmaster said:
Aeolus451 said:

If sony is being "lazy" than what are the others doing? Also, you could of left out the wall of text and just had your predictions up there.

SONY has been outright lazy for the last 6months to 1year

 

others are just outright bombing and giving up but that doesn't mean SONY doesn't need to finish the game as NINTENDO and MICROSOFT can easily comeback


In what way is sony being lazy? If sony keeps up the momentum that it has, the gen is theirs. MS is showing no signs of catching up or surpassing the PS4. MS would have sell well in europe and I don't think it has yet. Sure, MS and nintendo both have a chance to catch up or beat sony but the likelyhood of that happening is quickly eroding away. 

the fact that they are weak as a company both financially and brand wise and also that they shud finish the game and not give MICROSOFT any chance

MS is showing no signs but the gap isn't growing at the same pace as before and with MICROSOFT history and profits,they can easily come back

 

i don't think they will or will nintendo but SONY shud try to have almost a crushing lead to seal GAMING landscape brand victory



enlightenedmaster said:
Teeqoz said:


You said Sony doesn't make shit in music, but Sony is the biggest music publisher in the world, so you obviously don't know their every move, but there's nothing wrong with that.

 

You said financials shouldn't be a mainstay in an electronic company, to me that implies that you mean Sony should ditch financials...

But whatever, I'm done here now.

SONY really doesn't make shit in music,no music company makes anything in music.Only APPLE with iTunes makes somthing but even thats on decline

 

if you imply 'Sony should ditch financials' from 'financials shouldn't be a mainstay in an electronic company' then you need to go to school for english again


Sony makes more money from Music than they do from Gaming