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enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
DerNebel said:

You just saying something does not mean it's true, GTA 6 is most definitely not "almost surely coming as a timed exclusive to PS4". The same goes for all the other stuff I picked from your list, non of that will happen, simple as that.

i never said GTA6 is PS4 exclusive right now

 

i just said most likely it will be aka "almost surely"

 

all the other stuff other than GTA is surely even now



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Ryng on 23 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:

in 1-2 years,yes i expect PS4 to do 20million and the biggest year 25-30million

That's that impossible like i said. The PS4 MUST sell with costance >500k all month in the US and >30k all week in Japan for sell 25,000,000 in a year.

For not even talk about 30,000,000 lol... the only console that sold so much in a year was the DS, and it sold even more than 500k at month, one time it sold more than 1 million, AND WAS APRIL, not one holidays month... And 100k weekly in Japan... nope, just nope. PS4 at 20 million in a year is seriusly the maximum, over that is too crazy.

Wii was nowhere close to what PS4 is in dominance or in brand power.Wii was a pop culture FAD which died a horrible death.

Wii at a "terrible death" ? What death? Thw Wii sold nearly 12,000,000 in 2011, the worse Wii year (by 2012 is not count because is released WIU ), that's nearly what PS4 sold in 2014 ( just above 14,000,000 )

PS4 might have difficulty hitting 120m as Microsoft might start pumping money and Nintendo might have finally got sense kicked into them and make a comback with NX and Apple TV on the horizon but it will easily make 100million

So, even you agreed to say 120,000,000 is hard... how you can think it will break 140,000,000 !?

And not, >100,000,000 is not easy.


enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
PenguinZ said:

 

The Wii U is dead in the water... If Nintendo has their new system ready for 2016, they're going to release it in 2016. I don't think releasing a year later makes any difference.

no they won't Product launches and Nintendo main product launch is done with alot of things in mind like competition,lenght of product,etc

Nintendo's success on the NX will be based on what they have to offer as a first party and how well they can market it. That's always been the case and will continue to be the case for Nintendo systems.

no it won't

if Nintendo release NX in 2016,no matter what it will bomb

And Nintendo can't make NX a success without third-party support.no fucking way are they fucking up again.I think WiiU and 3DS success kicked the shit out of their senses

that might have been Nintendo consoles in the past but noway in 2010's and 2020's,no company-not even APPLE can survive on its own.

and Nintendo,if they have to survive as a company and as a brand.they need to change BIG time.

Again, GTA will not be a timed exclusive, but if we want to play around with unrealistic predictions, I'll make one for you to ponder over:

GTA VI, along with all future GTA and Rockstar games will be console exclusive to Xbox only and PC, because Microsoft will aquire Take-Two Interactive. (Or maybe Take-Two will sell Rockstar to MS for X amount of dollars).

That probably won't ever happen, but lets imagine for a second that it did. 

GTA6 can easily be a TIMED exclusive.

Even if TAKE-TWO is aquired by Microsoft,it will do more bad than good for GTA as XBOX is not the biggest gaming brand and is not the most loved and globally and even in the USA,it will hurt GTA brand and sales and in the future might even outright kill GTA as franchise brand.

And most of all,it does'nt make product or financial sense for Microsoft and XBOX to be doing so atm.





DerNebel on 23 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
DerNebel said:

You just saying something does not mean it's true, GTA 6 is most definitely not "almost surely coming as a timed exclusive to PS4". The same goes for all the other stuff I picked from your list, non of that will happen, simple as that.

i never said GTA6 is PS4 exclusive right now

 

i just said most likely it will be aka "almost surely"

 

all the other stuff other than GTA is surely even now

No it isn't and you're going to be getting a pretty rude wake up call in the next years, if you think those things are going to happen but suit yourself.



enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
Ryng_Tolu said:
enlightenedmaster said:

That's that impossible like i said. The PS4 MUST sell with costance >500k all month in the US and >30k all week in Japan for sell 25,000,000 in a year.

For not even talk about 30,000,000 lol... the only console that sold so much in a year was the DS, and it sold even more than 500k at month, one time it sold more than 1 million, AND WAS APRIL, not one holidays month... And 100k weekly in Japan... nope, just nope. PS4 at 20 million in a year is seriusly the maximum, over that is too crazy.

no it is't.PS4 can easily sell 25million in 2017 as it will be their biggest year with FINAL FANTASY 7 and GRAN THEFT AUTO 6 and PS4 SLIM and Price-cut

Wii at a "terrible death" ? What death? Thw Wii sold nearly 12,000,000 in 2011, the worse Wii year (by 2012 is not count because is released WIU ), that's nearly what PS4 sold in 2014 ( just above 14,000,000 )

yes Wii stunk and outright commit suicide in the end compared to what people were expecting from it and its Wii brand name outright failed with WiiU

2012 shud easily be counted,thats ludacris to say WiiU was released.its not people's problem that Nintendo just gives up on its old consoles the main the new one launches,its slutty.Look at SONY and MICROSOFT support of XBOX and PS consoles

 

So, even you agreed to say 120,000,000 is hard... how you can think it will break 140,000,000 !?

And not, >100,000,000 is not easy.

100million is pretty damn easy

i made the prediction of 140m as it depends on SONY future,APPLE TV release,NX success,MICROSOFT comeback,GOOGLE,SAMSUNG,ANDROID TV and what SONY have in store for PS4





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enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
DerNebel said:
enlightenedmaster said:
DerNebel said:

You just saying something does not mean it's true, GTA 6 is most definitely not "almost surely coming as a timed exclusive to PS4". The same goes for all the other stuff I picked from your list, non of that will happen, simple as that.

i never said GTA6 is PS4 exclusive right now

 

i just said most likely it will be aka "almost surely"

 

all the other stuff other than GTA is surely even now

No it isn't and you're going to be getting a pretty rude wake up call in the next years, if you think those things are going to happen but suit yourself.

it is and people will find out pretty easily

its common for people to have ridiculously low or high expectations as most people like last generation predictions

And GTA is one game that any console maker would spend big aka close to 500million to get exclusivity cause GTA exclusivity will outright hand them the generation atm



enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
beeje13 said:
Interesting roadmap, but you've put Gran Turismo 7 twice and Uncharted 5 and 6 when 4 will almost certainly be the last one.
I really don't think R* would do a 1 year timed exclusive deal, and Sony wouldn't pay the $100m+ required.

GRAN TURISMO 8 will release in 2019,I have corrected it

 

UNCHARTED 4 in noway will be the last one,UNCHARTED is SONY's 2nd biggest franchise and a cash cow and soon to be even bigger than GRAN TURIMSO,no way in hell they are gonna end it

devs say its last game all the time and its also a hypying and marketing ploy

ROCKSTAR will easily do TIMED exclusivity as they have 3 game old exclusivity deal with SONY and SONY let-go of GTA4 exclusivity deal and have great relationship with SONY and also PS4 lead and bigger lead by 2017 GTA6 release and SONY would even pay more lead will easily land PS4 GTA6 timed exclusivity

SONY can easily pay $100m,they wud pay that for GTA DLC exclusivity itself.SONY will pay as much as $500m for GTA6 exclusivity easily

 

 



enlightenedmaster on 23 June 2015
Soundwave said:

I don't think Sony has anything really to worry about for the rest of the gen.

They just need to keep hammering MS in the US market and break their will to compete. Keep things like COD and Destiny as Playstation-centric titles.

Getting FF7 Remake and SFV plus all the momentum they have already and Morpheus too ... they're on cruise control now. A price drop would be good this fall though. 

I think PS5 will come in fall 2019. 

SONY can easily have something to worry about with NX launch as it seems Nintendo had a pretty damn BIG wakeup call and they are outright changing their buisness model and MICROSOFT cash coffers and APPLE TV and GOOGLE,SAMSUNG and ANDROID TV.Also STEAM consoles

I think they need to not let-up now as alot of company's do that and SONY has know was relaxing and GTA6 timed exclusivity will seal them 70% marketshare



Ryng on 23 June 2015
enlightenedmaster said:
Ryng_Tolu said:
enlightenedmaster said:

no it is't.PS4 can easily sell 25million in 2017 as it will be their biggest year with FINAL FANTASY 7 and GRAN THEFT AUTO 6 and PS4 SLIM and Price-cut

No, is not. Not even close. The PS2 peak is 22m. And how the fuck will PS4 beat PS2? there is no more a battle Wii VS PS4, now is PS2 VS PS4, and currently the PS2 is massacre PS4 in sales. Just for you see:

US sales PS2 ( 2002 ) PS4 ( 2015 )
jan 361.000 192.000
feb 417.000 342.000
mar 362.000 336.000
apr 205.000 174.000
may 524.000 152.000

If not even PS2 sold 25m, you can understand that is impossible for PS4 sell 25m / 30m ... you don't think?

And there are no GTA or Slim version that can change this, the PS4 will mever sell more than 2m in a holidays month, or 500k in the summer in the US, like will never sell always 30-50k all week in Japan.

yes Wii stunk and outright commit suicide in the end compared to what people were expecting from it and its Wii brand name outright failed with WiiU

2012 shud easily be counted,thats ludacris to say WiiU was released.its not people's problem that Nintendo just gives up on its old consoles the main the new one launches,its slutty.Look at SONY and MICROSOFT support of XBOX and PS consoles

I'm sorry, but the sales says difference ;) Wii sold in 2011 more than 10m, that's not a bad death, is a strong year, and Wii was probabily sell easy >7m in 2012 if was not for WIU, but even if we adding WIU, still, >5m in a year are great.

100m is pretty damn easy

No is not. end of the discussion.

 





0815user on 23 June 2015

i'm betting hard on vr and on morpheus because imo you need gamers and sonys first party studios to kickstart it properly before it'll become a mainstream device in everybodys houshold like tvs are.