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I think the Wii U is a great secondary system if you like the Nintendo exclusives but prefer the Ps4/XOne over the Wii U

wii u is better for me because if I got PS4/XB1 then I would have to pay 2 online fees to get any decent amount of enjoyment for a total of $100+ a year. Over 5 years that puts both consoles in the $1300-$1500 range. wii u on the other hand has no online fees making it combined with one of the others a better $800-$1000.


PS3 had no online fees so it was often looked at in better light then the 360 combos. Sony putting online fees on the PS4 is likely hurting XB1 sales because it is the winning console.

WiiU + PC is a pretty great combo.

Well it is always hard to discuss taste. I see where you are getting at, but i disagree, here is why: PS4/XOne are not that close when you think about their exclusives. While i can totally see a MS fans wanting a PS4 over a Wii U more frequently, i don`t think that happens to SONY fans.

When you look to the big exclusive IPs, PS4 is actually closer to Wii U in genre variety: RPGs/jRPGs, plataformers, adventures, etc. In some genres like shooters and racing it gets closer to MS, and also the whole photo-realism art style, but that's it.

Therefore if you have Wii U or XOne, the best second console will be PS4, and if you have PS4, it will be Wii U most of the time.
So, as a second console: PS4>WiiU>X1

People should stop being poor and just get them all.
Im gonna get a PS4 when it has games I really want.
I will get a Wii U when it has more than 1 game I want.

I gave some strange idea room: that I might be wrong about which games I like. So I tried GTA V, Splintercell Blacklist, Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed and Batman. My result: boring. Really, I do not kid. I gave up on GTA after three or four hours, having to do some stupid mission to tow some cars. No, not in the least my cup of tea. Tomb Raider was a bad joke.

I have fun playing Pikmin, Xenoblade Chronicles, Mario Kart, Thief, Splatoon, Zelda, Borderlands, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Etrian Odyssey, Darksiders, Smash Bros, Monster Hunter, Persona Q, Demons Souls, Lego games, Pokemon, Rayman Legends, Hyrule Warriors, Metroid.

As you can see from this list of games, obviously I think PS4/X1 are horrible choices as first or second console (3DS is first, WiiU secondary console for me). You may have a different opinion, but your opinion or tastes doesn't matter to me, as giving in to other opinions and tastes made me waste a lot of money for crappy games as named at the top of my post.

So, do you think I should create a thread asking if people still believe PS4/X1 are good choices as first or second console? Do you think that is a good thread idea?

Owning an XB1 + PS4 just seems like a waste of money to me. The libraries are way to similar to warrant me spending 750$

problem with your logic is MK Wii against MK8 is different between BF 4 PS4 against BF 4 X1 version.  that is different.  it is like BF 3 against BF 4 comparison.

Wii U is backward compatible so if you have a PS4 + Wii U. you can also play Wii games plus PS4 exclusives, plus the normal multiplats that PS4 have. so a big win for a gamer who wanted to own PS4 and Wii U.

Wii U + PC + 3DS, I'll get all of the "console exclusives" on PC from Xbone/PS4, Nintendo exclusives, and 3DS exclusives while at the same time having the best multiplats and stellar PC exclusives like Total War, Cities:Skylines, Star Citizen, Pillars of Eternity, etc, etc.

I miss out on Bloodborne, Horizon, TLG, Ratchet and Clank and maybe KH3 (if it doesn't come to PC), but I can wait until PS4 is cheap and get those exclusives (along with the ones I don't desire so much) when the PS4 is cheap and I can find those games under $30 used.