These are not lies. They are rumors. They are as much of a lie as you saying they are not true.

You're right to a degree, but only to a degree. I also believe the OP went too far by calling the theorists "liars," because I believe some of the people spouting the theories genuinely (though not necessarily reasonably) believe their statements might be true.

However, the OP is correct in calling these unsupported theories "misinformation," because at the end of the day that's exactly what it is. After all, when a person puts forth a statement it is up to that perso to provide the factual support for it.

There is, literally, no evidence to support the first two statements identified in the OP.* There are logical assumptions - in this case, often leaps really - that some people are making to jump to those conclusions. They don't even rise to the level of rumors: they're suppositions cobbled together from select information, and they should be treated accordingly. Notwithstanding this reality, there appear to be folks going around spreading these assumptions like they're gospel.

In that respect, I feel comfortable siding with the OP, and took exception to holding him to a higher standard of proof than the rumormongers. After all, he is simply calling out people who are dressing supposition as fact: before I demand that he prove his case, it is both fair and logical to insist that the people making the original claims submit some proof for their claims, no?

*I, at least, have not seen or heard of any, nor have I heard whispers that the evidence is available somewhere.

i edited the thread maybe its now more clear.

I would choose the words hyperboles/easy conclusions instead of lies!:P I don't disagree with the thread though!:P

i am one of them.
Seriously i am really not that into nintendo to care but ever since they delayed zelda U for next year it became so clear to me.

I don't really get why Nintendo fans on this board are so terrified of new hardware.

The Wii U and 3DS are nothing special, the sooner they are replaced the better.

This is nothing like the Sega situation at all where they released 32X and Saturn 8 months within each other too, OK so stop citing that as an example, especially the 15 year olds here who don't really know anything about that era. 

The XBox 360 and Nintendo DS are the best selling Microsoft and Nintendo game hardware systems and they were both preceeded by system's with shorter lifecycles and that didn't impact them. 

Will you open a thread next year calling yourself a liar if everything pointed in the OP occurs?

My issue was with the labeling of "lies" not the actual claims or statements being made, nor about it being misinformation.

Additionally, the people making these claims are for the most part, not claiming it to be fact, to call something a lie is an absolute, in order to issue an absolute you need to be able to demonstrate why that's the case, the op doesnt and thus the absolute holds no meaning, and is in itself, misinformation.

In the same way claiming something is a fact, is an absolute, If someone were to say "it's a fact that NX will release in 2016", I would say the same thing to them, "without proof it isn't a fact".

If he gets refuted,yes he will make it,because he has the guts to admit it!I wonder about the others of the opposite side if will do the same if they get refuted...

They seem so certain,so such a miss would be painful!

You are the only sane member on this forum it seems.