| noname2200 said: You're right to a degree, but only to a degree. I also believe the OP went too far by calling the theorists "liars," because I believe some of the people spouting the theories genuinely (though not necessarily reasonably) believe their statements might be true. However, the OP is correct in calling these unsupported theories "misinformation," because at the end of the day that's exactly what it is. After all, when a person puts forth a statement it is up to that perso to provide the factual support for it. There is, literally, no evidence to support the first two statements identified in the OP.* There are logical assumptions - in this case, often leaps really - that some people are making to jump to those conclusions. They don't even rise to the level of rumors: they're suppositions cobbled together from select information, and they should be treated accordingly. Notwithstanding this reality, there appear to be folks going around spreading these assumptions like they're gospel. In that respect, I feel comfortable siding with the OP, and took exception to holding him to a higher standard of proof than the rumormongers. After all, he is simply calling out people who are dressing supposition as fact: before I demand that he prove his case, it is both fair and logical to insist that the people making the original claims submit some proof for their claims, no?
*I, at least, have not seen or heard of any, nor have I heard whispers that the evidence is available somewhere. |
My issue was with the labeling of "lies" not the actual claims or statements being made, nor about it being misinformation.
Additionally, the people making these claims are for the most part, not claiming it to be fact, to call something a lie is an absolute, in order to issue an absolute you need to be able to demonstrate why that's the case, the op doesnt and thus the absolute holds no meaning, and is in itself, misinformation.
In the same way claiming something is a fact, is an absolute, If someone were to say "it's a fact that NX will release in 2016", I would say the same thing to them, "without proof it isn't a fact".
