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Illusion said:
Nintendo had better hope that the NX is able to bring in the casuals. Pulling the plug on the Wii U like what we saw at E3 today is going to lose Nintendo a lot of loyalty from its core fans. If Nintendo's next console is not super popular and if it depends on the loyalty of fans like the GCN and Wii U did to sell units, I'm afraid that it's going to be a very short-lived console.

We saw today that Nintendo is choosing to make the Wii U its Sega Saturn. I hope that Nintendo knows what they are doing...

Go spread your bullshit elsewhere.



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Hiku said:

It's not fantasy. Sony did it with PS3. They never made back the money they invested in it to make it an attractive and affordable console again. Because it was their poor decisions that put them in that mess to begin with, and they had to make a choice. Lose a lot of money and regain the trust of the consumers, or see the console crasgh and burn. They chose the former, and look at PS4 now.
Nintendo are in a similar position.

It's understandable that they want to move away from the WiiU. But this situation comes from their own poor decisions. And they're acting like they have no obligation towards their fans because of their own poor choices. (Which they never seem to learn from.)
They have fans who have supported them regardless. So if they make a promise like that to them, I think they should be cautious and not make ones they don't intend to live up to. Because these fans will be important to them for the next console they release.

As for bang, I simply meant a quality game. At least one more to look forward to. Rather than some weird Animal Crossing Party game, or Mario tennis.

If you are seriously comparing the PS3 to the Wii U then I don't know what to say. The PS3 was in a much better situation than the Wii U has ever been in. It was actually somewhat salvageable, the Wii U is and has never been that.



Hiku said:

Costing $600 dollars is a much worse situation than WiiU was ever in. That's way way above what most people wanted to pay for a console. That's why they lost so much of their 150m marketshare to Xbox 360. They had to reduce the costs by a lot more than Nintendo would have had to do to make it attractive to the consumers, which Nintendo could have taken a big step towards by removing the Gamepad and making it optional. But they never did.
Nintendo had time to do something about the WiiU, but they remained passive for the most part, and decided it was enough to be profitable.

Anyway, it was an example of why its not a fairy tale to invest money that you know you're not going to make back, for the sake of the future. Not an exact comparison of the situations. You forget that I wasn't talking about spending that kind of money to save the WiiU. I was talking about spending a much smaller amount to make at least one or so additional quality game, after promising fans continued support. Some of those funds could come from simply not wasting resources on games like Metroid Ball and Animal Crossing Party.

I knew you'd come back with the price. But that was the main hurdle. That's something that can easily be handled. Yes, negative returns might happen, and they certainly did for Sony, but it's not as bad as being the complete odd one out. That's Nintendo's Wii U. The Wii U did have a fairly expensive price-tag for a Nintendo system, but it wasn't that exorbitant. 
 Besides, the price isn't what's killing the Wii U; it's the Wii U that's killing the Wii U. It's a toxic console that no one wants. The idea is unappealing in general and it's, although I don't care, definitely behind graphics-wise when compared to the other two. You can't fix that when the console's already released. (Actually you can, by killing it off.) Being profitable is the smart decision with the Wii U because it was obvious within weeks after it launched that no one wanted it. Yeah, yeah, get rid of the Gamepad. But then what's the Wii U? A poorly designed, already out-dated console with no third-party support. It was a gonner right out of the gate.

And on Metroid Ball and Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival being cut in order to free up some money: I doubt those cost much to make in the first place. Especially Metroid Ball, it's a spin-off using a cheap engine. You wouldn't get very much game out of using the funds from those two. 

Look, I know what you're getting at. Nintendo could've invested more. It could've made a difference. But today, right now the best idea is to ride out the storm that is Wii U. It's too late.



haterswillalwayshate said:
Illusion said:
Nintendo had better hope that the NX is able to bring in the casuals. Pulling the plug on the Wii U like what we saw at E3 today is going to lose Nintendo a lot of loyalty from its core fans. If Nintendo's next console is not super popular and if it depends on the loyalty of fans like the GCN and Wii U did to sell units, I'm afraid that it's going to be a very short-lived console.

We saw today that Nintendo is choosing to make the Wii U its Sega Saturn. I hope that Nintendo knows what they are doing...

Go spread your bullshit elsewhere.

Uhhhhh *looks at avatar and number of post* Never mind.



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One thing that must change from Nintendo is releasing trailers at E3 outside of the digital event. Just chech their Youtube channel and the E3 list there. There are 5 trailers which where not in the direct, all of which should have been:

- Fatal Frame 5 (Wii U)
- Mario & Sonic at the olympic games Rio 2016 (Wii U)
- Chibi Robo (3DS)
- Indies (Wii U)
- Earthbound Beginnings (Which, like I said earlier, should have been released just after the direct, not 2 days before)

With just these 5 trailers included in the Digital Event, I'm pretty sure it would have been much more welcomed than it did as it is.



So with their Micro Direct on June 1, the pre-E3 Smash Direct, and the announcement of the Earthbound Beginnings at NWC, I believed that they removed all this from the Digital Event because they had an overabundance of great content. It was the opposite. However, if they had placed Earthbound Beginnings and the Smash DLC in the Digital Event, even though those are only (or not even) 2 games, I think I would instead have a positive outlook on this E3.



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I think Nintendo are doing the smart thing. The Zelda unveil plus announcement of star fix etc went with Mario Kart 8 hitting and through last year showed Nintendo weren't giving up on the console and assuring potential buyers it had a future. Over 12 months later nothing has shifted.

So they're delivering what was promised. Putting out a few cheap 3DS games and looks like all their major resources are now going into NX. It's the smart move.

Get the major Wii U software back out in NXs early life to pad out the launch and give non Wii U owners the chance to try them as 3D World and MK8 etc won't have aged a bit.



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They put a lot of effort in the interbetween moments and Star Fox was cool. But yes, it was very underwhelming.



It was pretty bad. Star Fox looks cool, but they spent way too much time on Yoshi and Mario Maker. I also hate what they did to Metroid! Hopefully they are working on a Metroid game for the NX. That Paper Mario crossover though... Don't even get me started on that... Nintendo, all I fucking want from you is a regular Paper Mario game! Am I asking for too damn much?!



                
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