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Nintendo will be relevant until the day they collapse as a company



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Ka-pi96 said:
RolStoppable said:
Yes, they will be relevant.

They'll do it by ignoring the major third party publishers and focusing on their own strengths.

Because that worked so well with the Wii U?


It did with GCN/N64/Wii/3DS/DS/GBA........... Third parties on some of these just got some good sw sales, nintendo sold all its HW on its own (well i guess MH helped 3ds a bit, but thats just japan :p)



Ka-pi96 said:
Dusk said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Because that worked so well with the Wii U?

As the company is concerned, yes. They are profitable so it has worked for them. 

As per the gamer, it's harder to say as it's likely on a person to person basis. If someone doesn't like Nintendo there likely isn't anything that they can do to turn that around. Then there are also the opposites. It's the people in the middle that they need to worry about, the ones that can be swayed and convinced to purchase their product. That is where they have largely failed with the Wii U so far, however they have still managed to do rather well with the 3DS so it isn't like they are unable to do it. 

Some of it might have to do with what Sony and MS do as well. Kind of like how MS screwed the pooch and practically handed a crap ton of their fan base over to Sony in one fell swoop. If Sony continues the trend of pushing cloud (the ultimate DRM)that might sway their fanbase towards disloyalty, but it depends how they roll it out and if another is able to cash in on folly if there is any. 

I hope Nintendo don't consider the Wii U successful. Let's not forget they were losing money for a couple years despite the 3DS' good sales, so what does that say about the Wii U?

I think they likely would consider it successful to a degree. That's the thing with success, it's not yes or no, there are a multitiude of variables that can attribute to something being a success. Only Nintendo can really answer that. As far as them not loosing money on the console anymore, that would likely be considered a success. By only selling a bit under 10 million 2 years in, likely not a success. Plus the factors of the games made on the console have to be included into that equation as well. There have been some great games made for the system and some have sold quite well even if they were on a console with a much larger install base, that would undoubtedly have to be considered a success. But again there is the opposite of that as well with many. Amiibo's are a success, having issues with stock and scalpers is not. 

Nope, that they lost money at first is not forgotten, but that is pretty much a guarantee in the console business now, at least shortly after initial launch due to the extra costs without any recoup to first get them to the market along with all the software. Even on consoles that make money per sale that can be a very hard threshold to cross early after release. As far as R&D for the product... only Nintendo can actually answer that as well since only they know how much money they put into that. They still might not have crossed that threshold either, but that's actually the same for each console out there right now. 



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Pavolink said:
Not if they continue with the Wii U route: cheap unambitious games and overpriced DLC. Their greatest game so far is MK8 and Xenoblade coming. The rest of their games are unimpressive for their first HD console.


SM3DW/DK:TF/SSBU/Pikmin 3 would like a word with you *holding bats and sticks XD

Also DLC is overpriced? SSBU+NSLU+Pikmin 3 would like a word with you... 



RolStoppable said:
UltimateUnknown said:

If you really think the touchpad on DS4 and the screen on the gamepad are on the same level in terms of manufacturing costs and functionality then I really don't know what to say.

As for your last comment, it really doesn't matter to me what you or others want to believe. If you want to believe it's always 3rd party's fault, that's fine. Because 3rd parties have already decided that they aren't going to try to support Nintendo consoles when Nintendo doesn't bother asking them about what they want. And that's the correct decision.

You are funny. The manufacturing costs of the Gamepad are paid by Nintendo, not third parties. Therefore that's completely irrelevant to third parties. Writing code for a second screen to display a map or inventory is done in no time, unless you believe that was a serious challenge on the DS.

LOL!!! The Gamepad Screen is the most Underused Gimmick since the Wii Motion Plus. Not even NINTENDO uses it effectively on their 1st party games, do you expect that a third party studio would bother with it when the company that created the console dont even use it?! 

 

The Dualshock 4 Controller is the most comfortable Dualshock ever, the Touchpad didn't affect its design whatsoever, can you really say the same about the Fisher Price looking Wii U tablet controller?



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Do I think so?.... No.
Do I hope so?.... Yes.

What I want to see:

1) Hybrid memory cube techonology (4gb or 8gb).
2) AMD APU (x86+gpu, like the ps4/xbox1, so developers will develope games for your consol).
3) drop the gamepad (its a price trap)
4) do a normal controller like ps4/xbox1 OR go back to nunchucks the Wii had.




Guitarguy said:
Dusk said:


Yeah, very relevant. Would they be talked about as much as they are if there were irrelevant? Nope. People would forget about them and they wouldn't be talked about at all. They still make news all over the place, good or bad, they are still entirely relevant.


LOLL. Spin it anyway you want.


It's not spin, it's the definition of relevant. If they are irrelevant to you, you would not have clicked on this thread. 



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Guitarguy said:
spemanig said:
If Nintendo can still be relevant with the Wii U, and they are, they can be relevant through anything.


Seriously? A 9 year old console is outselling it weekly.. The Dreamcast had sold more than it in the same amount of time. The Wii U is 4 million units behind the Gamecube in aligned sales... Third parties have shunned them in droves. Many people don't even know the Wii U exists or do no care. That is relevance?


Yeap, especially when WiiU had some of the best sellers last year. (MK8 at 4.77mil as the best selling exclusive HC game, despite lowest install base!)

You can argue its Nintendo's biggest game, which i wont deny since the others havent brought their #1's out, but we are talking relevance here afteralll.



Guitarguy said:

Seriously? A 9 year old console is outselling it weekly.. The Dreamcast had sold more than it in the same amount of time. The Wii U is 4 million units behind the Gamecube in aligned sales... Third parties have shunned them in droves. Many people don't even know the Wii U exists or do no care. That is relevance?


What are you even talking about? Do you even understand what the word relevant means? Seamingly you don't, so let me give you a rough definition; "having significant and demonstrable bearing on the matter at hand." The "matter at hand" is the general video game discussion and the 8th generation of consoles. If you seriously don't think that the Wii U has a "significant and demonstrable bearing" on that matter, allow me to demonstrate that significant bearing with ten random articles talking about the Wii U that came out in the past week:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/04/03/what-are-the-chances-nintendos-star-fox-actually-comes-to-wii-u-in-2016/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/04/02/nintendo-to-add-nintendo-64-ds-games-to-the-wii-u/

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/46325/20150403/metroid-prime-wii-u-retro-studios-leak-new-nintendo-game-samus-rumor.htm

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/fatal-frame-wii-u-game-heads-west/.86715

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/family-friendly-wii-u-shooter-splatoon-release-dat/1100-6426344/

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2015/04/01/new-indie-games-coming-to-wii-u.aspx

http://www.destructoid.com/calm-down-nintendo-still-has-a-lot-in-store-for-wii-u-289676.phtml

http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/new-legend-of-zelda-wii-u-title-has-been-delayed-u.html

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/animal-crossing-wii-u-release-date-why-theres-no-chance-more-animal-crossing-year-428078

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/04/03/wii-us-temple-of-yog-splits-its-world-across-the-tv-and-the-gamepad/

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Learn what relevance means. It has nothing to do with selling consoles. It's about being in the discussion, significantly.



Dusk said:
Guitarguy said:


LOLL. Spin it anyway you want.


It's not spin, it's the definition of relevant. If they are irrelevant to you, you would not have clicked on this thread. 


If you are measuring relevancy by the amount of threads that you see on a Videogame web page, i think that you are not seeing the entire panorama of the actual market. Want to measure relevancy? Look at the sales. 

 

The Wii U is being outsold by the Ps3 almost every week and sometimes even by the Vita, is that relevancy?

 

EDIT: people are confusing Nintendo's relevancy with the Wii U's relevancy. Two different things.

 

EDIT 2: the thread is about Nintendo LOL, i was talking about the Wii U. My bad.