It's actually decent game for what it is, though it's 56 on Meta - collection of mini games that use Wiimote. Not too different in essence from, let's say, Wii Play, which stands at 58 Meta and sold 29 million copies.

Oh no! You didn't! Did you just say the M word on a forum full of Nintendo fanboys? You must be a COD casual dudebro! Just because Nintendo games appear to be for kids, are advertised for kids, and are mostly played by kids doesnt mean that they are for kids brah! E rated games fa' lyfe!

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-Mr Khan

There's a number of misconceptions about the Wii U, among which seems to be this idea that it's designed solely for children. It's difficult to find ages on any specific console, but the e-shop survey seems to suggest it's popular with adults. It's not surprising that young children don't rank high on the eshop as their parents are likely buying it for them, but I do find the low 5% result for teens to be rather surprising.

• 0-12 – 1%
• 13-17 – 5%
• 18-24 – 33%
• 25-34 – 46%
• 35+ – 14%

They will be relevant to me and millions of other Nintendo fans, but outside of that, I don't know...

Unless they pull a Wii, no, at least in home consoles. They seem to be too much stubborn to focus on a real strategy that allows 3rd parties to gravitate towards them.

Games are too expensive nowadays and marketing budgets aree huge. Nintendo has to count with only their own resources for both. MS and Sony basically can count with their resources and the budgets of all 3rd party companies. Just remeber GTA V and its massive advertising. And it all ended up with "Available on PS3 and Xbox 360". Free marketing and you will still get royalties.

People like 3rd party games and most of the public aren't multi-console owners. Chosing Nintendo means not getting GTA, Fifa, CoD, etc. That's not a sacrifice that anyone has to make with Sony/MS. Mouth to mouth helps too. If you have a X1, you can hear your friend that has a PS4 talk about how he liked Shadow of Mordor and you can just go and buy it too. Have a Wii U? Sorry, no game for you. People need to understand that it doesn't matter how much effort Nintendo puts in their software output, they can't beat the combined effort of Sony or MS + all game companies in the world. Wii U suffers with game droughts because that's the fastest output Nintendo can provide.

Nintendo is around for 30 year and they won't go anywhere (at least for now). But their relevance shrinked steadly since the N64.

People saying that they are focused on power usage are being beyound ridiculous. Ps4 and X1 uses around 150W, hardly a worrying number.

3DS has almost 3 years ahead of the PS4 and Wii U has 1. When this gen it's over, we will have PS4 > 3DS + Wii U. Don't try to make something that's bad look good.

I know, but the fact that it was low cost and a cash centre from 2007/10 meant they they of course saw use in it as you described, that use was incentive for them to continue paying attention to Nintendo as they moved onto a new system which they thought would have been a similar profit centre  Whether it was their ideal system isn't necessarily the point. I'm sure plenty more devs like the PSV as hardware over mobile platforms, but at the end of the day most follow money. Just reinfrocing the point that EA had every reason to suddenly be on stagein 2011  whereas they weren't in previous E3s

Says the guy who just told us that the PS4 will sell more than the 3DS and WiiU combined with nothing to support the claim...

Overall Nintendo hardware sold this generation will likely be somewhere right in the middle of Microsoft/Sony hardware.

Microsoft-60 million

Nintendo-85 million

Sony-135 million

If that's the case than Nintnedo is very relevant especially when u consider how much Nintendo-published software sells.

Keep sticking to the pessimistic predictions that you consider realistic!:P

It's just a reasonable extrapolation of the numbers. Aligning the Wii U with the GC, it would end up far behind. However, I would still give some credit to it so it can end up with 20-25M at best. 3DS is winding down. With a lot of luck, it could do 100M and that would be on par with the aligned comparison with its sucessor.

But we can look at the numbers in a different way. DS started going down YoY on it's fifth full year available (if you want to count the November launch, sixth). 3DS is going down on it's forth. In its fifth year, DS went down 7%. 3DS went down 32% on its fouth year. That means that 3DS has shorter legs than the DS, so we could predict a faster slowdown and 80M seems a more reasonable prediction, with 90M being absolutely the highest it can get.

We have the NX announced. It will cut the life of one (or both) of these consoles short, most likely 3DS. 100M combined sales look pretty reasonable for the current trends.

Looking at PS4, I don't think that current sales trends could be that useful, or we would have to predict it above the PS2 and that's highly unlikely because it actually has much more capable competition on X1 only that PS2 had on GC and XB. PS360 have 170M combined sales. Until their discontinuation is reasonable to assume that PS3 will do 90M-100M and 360 will do 90-95M, resulting in 180-195M sales. Ignoring the inevitable growth in marketshare for both (specially because some Wii casuals are gravitating towards the new HD twins), we could just split 180M with the current markeshare (PS4 2: 1 X1) and have 120M for the PS4. Saying it will do more than 100M is safe. PS3, with all the troubles did it, there is no reason why its much more successful sucessor won't beat it.

So that's a pretty reasonable explanation. Don't agree? I'll take a bet on it anyday. Easy win.