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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
umegames said:
no way we honestly think NX is coming in 2016????


3DS will likely will likely be well past due by 2016 ... if NX is a multiple hardware brand, then sure, why wouldn't there be a new NX portable in 2016? 

Even for fans who hold the whole "each generation MUST BE FIVE YEARS OMAGAWD YOU CAN"T LAUCNH BEFORE FIVE YEARS, GOD SAID SO IN THE BIBLE" mantra, last time I checked 

Feb 2011-Feb 2016 = 5 years. 

Meaning 3DS will be well past due for an upgrade after any point after Feb 2016. 



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zorg1000 on 28 March 2015
Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:


The main teams moved on after 2004 but 2005 still had pretty decent support from Nintendo-published titles.

Battalion Wars

Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix

Donkey Konga 2

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance

Geist

Mario Party 7

Mario Superstar Baseball

Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness

Star Fox: Assault

Super Mario Strikers


They basically turned the GameCube into the Mario spin-off machine after 2004. Mario dance dance revolution! Mario soccer! Mario baseball! Mario Party! 

lol. 

All those games were farmed out projects too, basically the main EAD teams, Retro, NST, etc. stopped making GameCube only games after 2004. 

Yep, spinoffs+outsourced titles+lower tier IP is what 2005 got so 2016 could see the same for Wii U.

SMT×FE, co-developed by Intelligent Games & Atlus (February)

Diddy Kong Racing, developed by Monster Games & Retro Studios (April)

Pokken Fighter, developed by Namco-Bandai Games (June)

Super Mario Strikers, developed by Next Level Games (August)

Fatal Frame V localization, developed by Tecmo-Koei (October)

Legend of Zelda, cross-gen with NX (November)



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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:


They basically turned the GameCube into the Mario spin-off machine after 2004. Mario dance dance revolution! Mario soccer! Mario baseball! Mario Party! 

lol. 

All those games were farmed out projects too, basically the main EAD teams, Retro, NST, etc. stopped making GameCube only games after 2004. 

Yep, spinoffs+outsourced titles+lower tier IP is what 2005 got so 2016 could see the same for Wii U.

SMT×FE, co-developed by Intelligent Games & Atlus (February)

Diddy Kong Racing, developed by Monster Games & Retro Studios (April)

Pokken Fighter, developed by Namco-Bandai Games (June)

Super Mario Strikers, developed by Next Level Games (August)

Fatal Frame V localization, developed by Tecmo-Koei (October)

Legend of Zelda, cross-gen with NX (November)

Probably safe to throw in something like Mario Tennis U or Mario Sports U or something along those lines too. 

Pretty standard 4th year for a Nintendo console honestly. 



umegames on 28 March 2015
Soundwave said:
umegames said:
no way we honestly think NX is coming in 2016????


3DS will likely will likely be well past due by 2016 ... if NX is a multiple hardware brand, then sure, why wouldn't there be a new NX portable in 2016? 

Even for fans who hold the whole "each generation MUST BE FIVE YEARS OMAGAWD YOU CAN"T LAUCNH BEFORE FIVE YEARS, GOD SAID SO IN THE BIBLE" mantra, last time I checked 

Feb 2011-Feb 2016 = 5 years. 

Meaning 3DS will be well past due for an upgrade after any point after Feb 2016. 

But they just launched the new 3ds, surely they didn't do so just to release xenoblade??? the new 3ds has to be for front handheld for at least all of 2016, with a New 3ds metroid, a New 3ds pokemon and maybe a New 3ds mario game.

And I'm not sold that NX is purely the next gen handheld for Nintendo. Hybrid at best



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Materia-Blade on 28 March 2015
Mummelmann said:
I think OP might have a point here; I have also said that I believe we'll see a new home console in late 2016, there is zero logic in keeping grinding gears that are stuck (Wii U) when you can make a jump and create a new opportunity. Why allow yourself to become an obscure blimp on the home console radar by forcing the Wii U to be your focus for several more years?
I just wrote in another thread that it makes more sense to upset the small userbase of the Wii U and gain a chance at actually becoming a factor in the market again than to fade to nothing and lose all potential customers; fans should not be cheering for Nintendo to continue sitting in the sinkhole.

It is indeed interesting that there is no Zelda footage for E3; I can't imagine why a Zelda title, regardless of ambition, would require dev time in the same region as GTA V, which is easily the most ambitious title released in the 7th gen. If this were actually so, it would mean that either; Nintendo are truly incompetent at making HD games, or they will produce a game with such a budget and aspiration that it will be utterly wasted on their weakest performing console ever.
It is more logical that they are pushing it back to offer it along with a new hope in the form of hardware that has actual potential.

Paired with the recent mobile decision, the outright announcement that a new platform is actually underway, great lack of news regarding Wii U and 3DS must-have software for the foreseeable future and not even a Direct for some time; the writing is thick and clear on the wall and Nintendo are obviously ready to move on, and gamers should just as well prepare for them to do so and be thankful that they are making efforts to salvage the wreck and look to the horizon rather than sink to the bottom out of principles insisted by die-hard fans.

"and gain a chance at actually becoming a factor in the market again"

you're saying nintendo is not a factor in the market? that's interesting.

"reat lack of news regarding Wii U and 3DS must-have software for the foreseeable future and not even a Direct for some time"

In case you didn't notice, E3 i around the corner AND we are getting news for the 2015 games.



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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
umegames said:
Soundwave said:


3DS will likely will likely be well past due by 2016 ... if NX is a multiple hardware brand, then sure, why wouldn't there be a new NX portable in 2016? 

Even for fans who hold the whole "each generation MUST BE FIVE YEARS OMAGAWD YOU CAN"T LAUCNH BEFORE FIVE YEARS, GOD SAID SO IN THE BIBLE" mantra, last time I checked 

Feb 2011-Feb 2016 = 5 years. 

Meaning 3DS will be well past due for an upgrade after any point after Feb 2016. 

But they just launched the new 3ds, surely they didn't do so just to release xenoblade??? the new 3ds has to be for front handheld for at least all of 2016, with a New 3ds metroid, a New 3ds pokemon and maybe a New 3ds mario game.

And I'm not sold that NX is purely the next gen handheld for Nintendo. Hybrid at best


DSi XL launched approximately 12-14 months before the 3DS. 

New 3DS is nothing more than the DSi, DSi had similar hardware upgrade (more RAM, faster CPU, promises of new games). I mean really they could've just called it the 3DSi. 

NX is likely not any single hardware. It's multiple hardware variants that can play the same games because they have the same chipset scaled up/down. Iwata mentioned if they went the unified platform route they could even have more than the standard 2 hardware variants. 



Curmudgeon on 28 March 2015

It's not 'obvious' because you base it on way to much assumptions.

New Zelda will definitely launch on Wii U. There is some chance it will also be on NX, but I still seriously doubt it. Nintendo delays games all the time. Doesn't have to be anything more. For all we know they just skip E3 because it was supposed to be playable this year, but they feel it's not ready for that yet.



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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
Curmudgeon said:
It's not 'obvious' because you base it on way to much assumptions.

New Zelda will definitely launch on Wii U. There is some chance it will also be on NX, but I still seriously doubt it. Nintendo delays games all the time. Doesn't have to be anything more. For all we know they just skip E3 because it was supposed to be playable this year, but they feel it's not ready for that yet.

E3 is largely a digital event for Nintendo these days. Why not show a trailer? 

A game missing an E3 entirely after being shown the previous E3 is almost never a good thing either. Something is up IMO. 

Lets be honest too -- moving Zelda Twilight Princess to be on both the Wii and GameCube, likely made the game sell 3-5 million extra copies that it wouldn't have otherwise. That's a huge net profit they pulled in from that decision. 

Can't really argue with cold, hard dollars. We've seen this exact same script before (Zelda game coming late in a underperforming Nintendo console's life cycle ... Nintendo bails and opts to position it as a launch title for the next Nintendo platform instead). 

Nintendo is actually not that rabidly unpredictable. Usually if something makes them money, they end up trying the same thing again. Remember when everyone thought Retro was working on some amazing new IP or new Metroid and it turned out to be DKC? Well really that shouldn't have been a surprise if you actually looked at the sales numbers ... DKCR was by far Retro's best selling game, Nintendo putting Retro immediately to work on another DKC shouldn't have surprised anyone. 



zorg1000 on 28 March 2015
Soundwave said:
zorg1000 said:

Yep, spinoffs+outsourced titles+lower tier IP is what 2005 got so 2016 could see the same for Wii U.

SMT×FE, co-developed by Intelligent Games & Atlus (February)

Diddy Kong Racing, developed by Monster Games & Retro Studios (April)

Pokken Fighter, developed by Namco-Bandai Games (June)

Super Mario Strikers, developed by Next Level Games (August)

Fatal Frame V localization, developed by Tecmo-Koei (October)

Legend of Zelda, cross-gen with NX (November)

Probably safe to throw in something like Mario Tennis U or Mario Sports U or something along those lines too. 

Pretty standard 4th year for a Nintendo console honestly. 

Well Mario Strikers fills in that whole, maybe something like Super Mario Sunshine HD for the summer. Supposedly, Wind Waker HD was developed by like 4 people in 6 months or something.



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Soundwave on 28 March 2015
zorg1000 said:
Soundwave said:

Probably safe to throw in something like Mario Tennis U or Mario Sports U or something along those lines too. 

Pretty standard 4th year for a Nintendo console honestly. 

Well Mario Strikers fills in that whole, maybe something like Super Mario Sunshine HD for the summer. Supposedly, Wind Waker HD was developed by like 4 people in 6 months or something.


I think Next Level is working on Luigi's Mansion 3 not Mario Strikers, but that's usually Nintendo's standard procedure with 2nd party developers -- if something does well, a sequel is pretty much immediately greenlit. 

Luigi's Mansion is by far Next Level's best selling game, Nintendo generally does not let any franchise IP that's above 3 million WW sit idle. If you're in that 3 mill+ range, you're now in the big boys club as far as Nintendo is concerned and if you're a Western studio, lol, hope you like that IP because Nintendo will have you working on it for a long, long time. 

Any number of studios could poop out a generic Mario sports game, they don't really need Next Level to do that. The Sega team that does the Mario/Sonic Olympic games for example or Camelot (the Mario Tenns/Golf guys) could do it, or say nd Cube (the Mario Party guys) or Bandai-Namco which did do Mario Sluggers in the past and seem to be working on every third Nintendo game these days.