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what about The Witcher 3...?

i think both of their battle system kind of similar are they?



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shikamaru317 said:

Lol, let's hope they don't plan to pull another Versus 13/15. They should be aiming to release at least 2 mainline FF games per generation imo. 

I'd like to see FFXV in early 2016, Kingdom Hearts 3 in late 2016 or early 2017, and FF 16 in 2018 or 2019 (which should be near the end of the 8th generation).

You'll get FF XV-2 in 2019, Noctis Strikes Back: FF XV in 2022, and perhaps FF XVI around 2025 or so.

 

And then KH3.



TheSpindler said:
vivster said:
Hynad said:
vivster said:

This just proves that it previously needed 4 whole FF games to produce as many gay guys as FFXV does alone :P


So what you are saying is that if some guy has male friends, he's gay?

Nope. Just these guys who have particularly trouble hiding their sexuality.

Little known fact is that "FFXV" is Japanese code for "gay road trip". Hence why they had to change the title.

Well four beautiful and well dressed guys going on a raod trip with no girls travelling with them does raise a few flags.  I actually thought at least one of them would be gay.  But I doubt if SquareEnix would pull off something like that.

Has there ever been gay main characters in an rpg before, jrpg or wrpg without a character creation one of course.


Honestly it would be a pleasant suprise if instead of making the characters just LOOK gay that one of them really WAS gay lol.

Gay Characters in FF Series

Vaan-Never explicitly stated, jsut alluded to with outfit. The fact that Panello was always throwing her cat at him and he never gave her the time of day. He also hero worships both Balthier and Basch(what a MAN!) with lustful eyes imo.

Barret-not only the first black character but first gay one. On several occasions the game allows you to flirt or alude to being in a relationship with Barret, something that is seen as funny because Barrett is so hyper masculine so he has to be over compensating. Then there is the whole thing of taking care of the love child of his "friend" Dyne who he harps on quite a lot.

Fang and Vanille- come on, the has been the most obvious one in years. The Fal'Cie basically blackmailed them both into doing what they wanted because they knew their love for one another would make them do anything to save the other. Similar to how it used Sahz's fatherly love against him.



      

      

      

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Ka-pi96 said:
forevercloud3000 said:


Honestly it would be a pleasant suprise if instead of making the characters just LOOK gay that one of them really WAS gay lol.

Gay Characters in FF Series

Fang and Vanille- come on, the has been the most obvious one in years. The Fal'Cie basically blackmailed them both into doing what they wanted because they knew their love for one another would make them do anything to save the other. Similar to how it used Sahz's fatherly love against him.

Gotta disagree on that one. Felt a lot more like they were sisters than lovers.


really? So Fang didn't give butch lezzy vibes to you like....at all? 0_o

their love seemed far deeper than sisterly to me. Lightning and Sarah had sisterly love(where it is mostly uneven and in dif ways). Vanille and Fang felt far more romantic to me.



      

      

      

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shikamaru317 said:
HokageTenshi said:
what about The Witcher 3...?

i think both of their battle system kind of similar are they?

Yes, Witcher 3 is an action RPG, and I believe FFXV is as well. There are several key differences between an action RPG and a hack and slash in my opinion. Action RPG's are typically much longer for starters, much like other forms of RPG's. Action RPG's typically have some form of skill tree, stat based gear, crafting system, and levelling system, all things that hack and slash games usually lack. We know that FFXV is a huge game, much like other RPG's, and I know that FFXV has both a levelling system and stat based gear, because you can see both of those things in this video. I'm not sure if FFXV has a skill tree of some form or a crafting system, but I'd guess that it does.

Typically and always mean two very different things though. Also, Diablo (I, II, and III) are hack and slash games. They have skill trees, stat based gear, leveling system, and crafting system. By your definition Diablo (released in December of 1996), which is known to be a hack and slash game, is not a hack and slash game. This "Action RPG" nonsense came around well after "Hack and Slash" (aka Hack'N'Slash). Stop telling people that it's an Action RPG when that term is pseudo-replacing Hack and Slash.



 

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IFireflyl said:
shikamaru317 said:
HokageTenshi said:
what about The Witcher 3...?

i think both of their battle system kind of similar are they?

Yes, Witcher 3 is an action RPG, and I believe FFXV is as well. There are several key differences between an action RPG and a hack and slash in my opinion. Action RPG's are typically much longer for starters, much like other forms of RPG's. Action RPG's typically have some form of skill tree, stat based gear, crafting system, and levelling system, all things that hack and slash games usually lack. We know that FFXV is a huge game, much like other RPG's, and I know that FFXV has both a levelling system and stat based gear, because you can see both of those things in this video. I'm not sure if FFXV has a skill tree of some form or a crafting system, but I'd guess that it does.

Typically and always mean two very different things though. Also, Diablo (I, II, and III) are hack and slash games. They have skill trees, stat based gear, leveling system, and crafting system. By your definition Diablo (released in December of 1996), which is known to be a hack and slash game, is not a hack and slash game. This "Action RPG" nonsense came around well after "Hack and Slash" (aka Hack'N'Slash). Stop telling people that it's an Action RPG when that term is pseudo-replacing Hack and Slash.

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Guitarguy said:
It probably had to adapt to more modern conventions. Looks at Metal Gear Solid 4, it dropped it's traditional top-down view in favor of a more Western third-person behind the shoulder view point and a controllable camera via the right analog stick. Since console gaming in Japan is declining it makes sense to cater toward Western audiences considering they now represent the vast majority of the market... Turn based RPG's haven't been popular in the West since the end of the PS2...

They're still popular in the west, they just aren't on consoles for the most part.


They haven't been popular in the west because Japan all of a sudden stopped making them on consoles in favor of handhelds; but really only because the DS was doing so well and at the end of the PS2's life cycle, but also because the PS3 had a bad start while the 360 lured Sakaguchi in and out to pasture (seriously, I hope he learned his lesson on making exclusive JRPGs on a western system this time around).  They weren't even on decline in the grand scheme of things (in gamer minds) for consoles; the sales of FFXIII show this in 2010. 2010 being a year well after it seemed like we wouldn't see a AAA produced turn based RPG.

Japan could have kept the magic rolling, but only after SE would make a dent as they usually did to convince more JRPG developers to release turn based games.

Now though, after the polarizing effect FF13 had it's difficult to say.  But I believe they could definitely come back popular in the west on consoles if pokemon is any indication.

They just have to actually get made and for the right audience this time.



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vivster said:
What a "real" Final Fantasy. So "real" that it doesn't even need its signature battle system.


No two FF games have had the same Battle system...in fact all of them are rather significantly different.

Also its been 9 god damned years that we have KNOWN this was an action +  traditional hybrid battle system type game.  Get over it for christs sake. 



...uhh...ill just put my favorite quote of all time here.

"Welcome to Pain, the second of three...You have dealt the first...now deal with me!!"

Also arent you the same jackass thats whining all over Gamefaqs about this game?

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...uhh...ill just put my favorite quote of all time here.

"Welcome to Pain, the second of three...You have dealt the first...now deal with me!!"

Finally a final fantasy game for me. I hate turn based RPG.