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I think it would be easy to say either yes or no to the question at this point, and say why. People can agree or disagree, but that`s just individual`s opinions.



 

              

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Mnementh said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Online communication and alternative apps are now fused into gaming.

Ie: my mother bought me a nintendo console because she believed it was a toy marketed at children.

Today: when my mother comes over she saw the transformation of what consoles are today and she wondered why she still has a dvd vcr combo.

The reason why the playstations have always had the edge on the competition is because sony always takes risks on new formats most people cannot afford and because wider gaming market consumes it as a cheaper cd, dvd or blu ray player they can enjoy their movies on it. This drew a lot of gamers into gaming who werent necessarily before. It also made it something marketwise that adults could enjoy. This is why microsoft follows the formats sony uses, because they want to be just as attractive. Even nintendo dont see eye to eye with sony had to eventually give.

You make it sound as if toys would be exclusively for children and toys for adults are inexistant. Also you still bring up formats, that have nothing to do with something being a toy or not.


What would you call D&D? Im curious. A toy is an object to be manipulated. It has no goal...it just is. A game has a purpose for competition or a goal to either win or lose vs something or someone. In D&D, its to survive the DM. A toy is an object that is used with no goal in mind outside of personal amusement through manipulation.

In America Videogames are one of the major reason for the fall of Toy companies in the 90's. They used to sell videogames in their own section of Toys R Us. Where I live it is a wasteland and KB Toys of dead where I live. Gamestop destroyed all of them when they gobbled up all of the videogame stores. 

There is an evolutionary process in which they are used to help the thinking process.

Toy= Object  to be manipulated.

Game= Vs (sport) or Goal based endeavor 

Puzzles= Twsts of intellect to find a code or answer.



Yep, game consoles are toys. Just like if/when I ever buy a supercar that will also be a toy.



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binary solo said:
Yep, game consoles are toys. Just like if/when I ever buy a supercar that will also be a toy.


What does a vehicle have to do with a game console?



I think I would actually say no. The old generations I would have described them as toys, they were only made for you to "play" with. Today I would describe them as entertainment systems or something in those lines.

I could buy a console today and not play a single game, and still use them for other things. Watch movies, talk to my friends, listen to music etc. So even though the main part of the console is to play games, the whole box today contains so much more. Even the Wii U I would call an entertainment system.

Same with phones, their main function is to call or text people, but I'm sure that there are people that actually play more games on them than they actually call people. Still, they are phones, or smartphones.

Or perhaps everything is just part of the computer-family today?



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S.T.A.G.E. said:


What would you call D&D? Im curious. A toy is an object to be manipulated. It has no goal...it just is. A game has a purpose for competition or a goal to either win or lose vs something or someone. In D&D, its to survive the DM. A toy is an object that is used with no goal in mind outside of personal amusement through manipulation.

In America Videogames are one of the major reason for the fall of Toy companies in the 90's. They used to sell videogames in their own section of Toys R Us. Where I live it is a wasteland and KB Toys of dead where I live. Gamestop destroyed all of them when they gobbled up all of the videogame stores.

There is an evolutionary process in which they are used to help the thinking process.

Toy= Object  to be manipulated.

Game= Vs (sport) or Goal based endeavor

Puzzles= Twsts of intellect to find a code or answer.

I agree with your last three definitions. As D&D is a set of rules, it is a game. But the objects used to play D&D are toys (miniatures, dice). A game console is a object you manipulate to play games. It doesn't matter if it is designed for adults or children or both. It is a toy. The games for the console are games. The games can be puzzles.

If children play hide and seek, they play a game and don't need toys for it. If they play policeman and burglar (or these days probably terrorist and soldier), they may still use no toys, or they use toy-guns for example. The game stays a game, the objects used to play the game are toys.

And what failed management decision Toys'R'Us made is of no impact to this discussion.



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If board games are considered toys (I don't know but I guess they are), video games are as well.
There are borderline cases, of course, which could be an argument for "digital entertainment media" or whatever but the major thing about video games is the GAME. We even call puzzle games games while you can argue they aren't games because they are just for thinking and don't involve competition or a luck factor.

Even if today's "consoles" are more like hubs for anything and everything, I use them for gaming so it's a toy to me. If you want to judge, tell the companies to not call it gaming console anymore. :P



Sort of yes, sort of no, I consider the console itself to be in the same realm as a blu-ray player or tech gadget, but the games themselves to be toys more or less. That's probably stupid though, but meh.



It's a toy in the fact that it's something that provides entertainment for people. People get enjoyment out of playing videogames.



I mean, I thing of it as a video game console, but I'd say the closest thing to it in my head are toys in that you play with them. Though I'd liken them more to playing cards or board games.