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Kresnik said:
The amount of kerfuffle I've seen over this supposed port has been weirdly insane. For a console with very little third party support, fans of it on the forums seem to be clamoring for just about every third party game that's not been announced as coming so far.

Anyway, as I've said in a thread somewhere else, were it not from EA, I'd have said The Sims 4 fits all the categories.

That's a pretty good guess actually, as tantalus ported Mass Effect before they have ties with EA. I don't think EA is so serious about complete abandonment though, if they see a chance for profit.



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rolltide101x said:

Like I said in another post, is there any game on the Wii U that we know runs below 720p?

Disney Infinity 2.0 runs at 600p



rolltide101x said:

KH3 being possible on the Wii U all comes down to what the game is on the XBOne.

The Wii U is somewhere between 1/3rd and 1/4th as powerful as an XBOne. If the XBOne version runs at 1080p and 60 FPS the Wii U could run it at 720p 30 FPS fairly easily. If the XBOne runs it at 1080p and 30 FPS it would be possible but probably at a resolution below 720p. It also comes down to how many advanced graphics features the game has and if they are willing to do the work to compensate for the lack of them.

Like I said in another post, is there any game on the Wii U that we know runs below 720p?

Power can't be summed up to a linear factor, especially when we are talking about theoretical performance (floating points) versus. real world performance. (See: Law of diminishing returns.) 



sc94597 said:
Kami said:

AMD does have a spec sheet for a "latte" gpu. 

Can you produce that spec sheet for me and show me where it says 350 Gigaflops? 

It's not that hard. 

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gpu-specs-comparison-wiiu-vs-xbox-one-vs-ps4-30976500/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series

So even if you don't find what you're looking for there are not a lot of Wii U titles that make the Wii U look like it's more powerful than what the specs are saying. 



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Kami said:
sc94597 said:

Can you produce that spec sheet for me and show me where it says 350 Gigaflops? 

It's not that hard. 

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gpu-specs-comparison-wiiu-vs-xbox-one-vs-ps4-30976500/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series

So even if you don't find what you're looking for there are not a lot of Wii U titles that make the Wii U look like it's more powerful than what the specs are saying. 

No you specifically said AMD released a spec sheet and introduce me to two Wikipedia articles and a gamespot post. Where is AMD's spec sheet? Again, the 350 gigaflop number comes from tech guys opening up the Wii U and extrapolating. Not to say they're wrong, but the number is not official. 



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sc94597 said:
Kami said:

It's not that hard. 

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gpu-specs-comparison-wiiu-vs-xbox-one-vs-ps4-30976500/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_U

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_HD_4000_Series

So even if you don't find what you're looking for there are not a lot of Wii U titles that make the Wii U look like it's more powerful than what the specs are saying. 

No you specifically said AMD released a spec sheet and introduce me to two Wikipedia articles and a gamespot post. Where is AMD's spec sheet? Again, the 350 gigaflop number comes from tech guys opening up the Wii U and extrapolating. Not to say they're wrong, but the number is not official. 

How do you think they got it? And if that's you're argument then the PS4 specs are unofficial as well. Point being the Wii U is based off of HD 4000 technology so even if it isn't 350 gigaflops it can't be much higher. 



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Kami said:
sc94597 said:

No you specifically said AMD released a spec sheet and introduce me to two Wikipedia articles and a gamespot post. Where is AMD's spec sheet? Again, the 350 gigaflop number comes from tech guys opening up the Wii U and extrapolating. Not to say they're wrong, but the number is not official. 

How do you think they got it? And if that's you're argument then the PS4 specs are unofficial as well. Point being the Wii U is based off of HD 4000 technology so even isn't 350 gigaflops it can't be much higher. 

I told you how they DID get it. They looked inside the box and guessed based off the die size and power consumption. Also the HD 4000 series ranges from as low as 96 gflops (hd 4350)  to 1.6 terraflops (HD 4890.) 



Zekkyou said:

 As for your second point, the most likely explanation would be Nintendo throwing money at SE (similar to MS with FF13) :p I don't personally think KH3 is the rumored AAA title, but weirder things have happened. 


Its obviously Persona 5, bundled with Persona 3/4 for the WiiU.

 

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>.>



sc94597 said:
Kami said:

How do you think they got it? And if that's you're argument then the PS4 specs are unofficial as well. Point being the Wii U is based off of HD 4000 technology so even isn't 350 gigaflops it can't be much higher. 

I told you how they DID get it. They looked inside the box and guessed based off the die size and power consumption. Also the HD 4000 series ranges from as low as 96 gflops (hd 4350)  to 1.2 terraflops (HD 4870.) 

Ok but do you really think a HD4870 is in a Wii U. 0% chance of that happening. 350 gigflops is at the very least within the neighborhood of the Wii U. 



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Kami said:
sc94597 said:

I told you how they DID get it. They looked inside the box and guessed based off the die size and power consumption. Also the HD 4000 series ranges from as low as 96 gflops (hd 4350)  to 1.2 terraflops (HD 4870.) 

Ok but do you really think a HD4870 is in a Wii U. 0% chance of that happening. 350 gigflops is at the very least within the neighborhood of the Wii U. 

No, I am certain the HD 4870 is not in the Wii U for the sole reason that the Wii U has very low power consumption. In fact, the guys who came up with the 350 gigaflop upper estimate make a good argument, assuming that there weren't major modifications to the GPU (which there was much they didn't know.) Nevertheless, you were claiming 350 gflops as official, and it is not, nor are we certain that it is true. There are other reports that the Wii U's GPU is comparable to an  HD 4670, based off pictures of it. That would mean something from 380 gflops as a lower limit to 550 gflops as an upper limit (rather than the 180 gflops-350gflops that is commonly cited). Which doesn't sound like a lot, but it is double the PS3 GPU's floating point performance, if we are going to use linear scales. And again this is all theoretical performance, which says very little about real-world performance.