I wish I could be a part of it, but I can't thanks to that site's shitty sign up process.  I do lurk there a lot though.  They seem similar to this site, a load of people shitting on the game, and others resolutely standing by it and getting it day 1.

Shinobi seems to suggest in one thread that it was pretty good, but who knows how much he knows

Well there's more interest in it that you'd think, considering it was voted in the top 10 most anticipated games of 2015 just like 1 or 2 weeks ago. The drive by posting is immense though, which always gives topics a nature that they otherwise wouldn't have. And I think you're better off not being a part of it anyway. Imo neogaf has a huge issue with modding and rules where it seems okay to go into topics centered on one thing and attack that directly, but doing any sort of comparison (which usually actually has more information, detail and arguments than simple direct trollish attacks) in a multi-community topic will get you moderated. Boggles my mind. Didn't take long for me to log out and never log back in after my sign up was approved. Only really go there for insider information and news. Oh, and gifs...of course, the gifs.

Yeah but at least that will be more or less the end of it, aside from probably a couple of "oh this game is so over/underrated"-threads depending on the critical scores.

It was the same with Ryse back then.

I remember that thread now you mention it, I was surprised to see the game so high up.  Honestly though, the fact that The Order was above a game like Halo 5 shows how many Sony fans use that site more than anything else.

To be fair, this statement could very easily be reversed to apply to Sony fans defending it, just saying.

Innovative =/= good

The word in itself means nothing, as you said many games innovate in some way but is a positive and what about the experience as a whole.

The one thing I think everyone has decided on is that the setting and graphics are beautiful and refreshing.

They should make it like a movie or something. I just press one button every 10 minutes or so and I get Trophies. I'm down with that.

It's like nobody wants this game to be good...

You are very funny and smart, aren't you ?

It's a very well known fact that Some Media in UK and NA are pro MS and anti-Sony; videogames are a business, with the good and the bad involved. Grow up.

Many MS and Nintendo fans are jealous of the success of the PS4, that's why ;)     Are you surprised ? :)