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Wow! I'm shock at the comments here basic human rights just went out the window and its being supported because of intolerance against religion.

So much for freedom. So much for going into the future and having progressive thinking.

Oh wait this is China my bad. Everything that goes against human rights is acceptable.



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tiffac said:

Wow! I'm shock at the comments here basic human rights just went out the window and its being supported because of intolerance against religion.

So much for freedom. So much for going into the future and having progressive thinking.

Oh wait this is China my bad. Everything that goes against human rights is acceptable.

Yeah... I'm an atheist, and I think the world would be better without religion.  But, the reason I dislike religion is because it is used to coerce people into acting and thinking in certain ways.  Coercing people to act in certain ways through legal and military force isn't any better.  

You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims.  Doesn't work that way.



JWeinCom said:
tiffac said:

Wow! I'm shock at the comments here basic human rights just went out the window and its being supported because of intolerance against religion.

So much for freedom. So much for going into the future and having progressive thinking.

Oh wait this is China my bad. Everything that goes against human rights is acceptable.

Yeah... I'm an atheist, and I think the world would be better without religion.  But, the reason I dislike religion is because it is used to coerce people into acting and thinking in certain ways.  Coercing people to act in certain ways through legal and military force isn't any better.  

You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims.  Doesn't work that way.

See theres' the problem, you generalize everyone. Has every single muslim forced their religion on to you? No!

If we want to win this war against extremicism, we have to stop thinking like extremist. The reason the terrorist are getting fresh recruits is because we have started marginalizing people for their beliefs and even more so over the internet, and worse of all, we think this kind of talk in cyberspace doesn't carry over in the real world too. It does~

Also, every ideology can coerce people, the Cold War proved this among other things and money even more so, should we ban money too?

Lets stop making excuses to hate each other. Its the first step we should take, no one has the right to ban any belief or we will all end up being hypocrites when we say we support freedom.



"You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims. Doesn't work that way."

Uhhhhhh... when did I say every single muslim tried to force their religion on me?



tiffac said:
JWeinCom said:

Yeah... I'm an atheist, and I think the world would be better without religion.  But, the reason I dislike religion is because it is used to coerce people into acting and thinking in certain ways.  Coercing people to act in certain ways through legal and military force isn't any better.  

You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims.  Doesn't work that way.

See theres' the problem, you generalize everyone. Has every single muslim forced their religion on to you? No!

If we want to win this war against extremicism, we have to stop thinking like extremist. The reason the terrorist are getting fresh recruits is because we have started marginalizing people for their beliefs and even more so over the internet, and worse of all, we think this kind of talk in cyberspace doesn't carry over in the real world too. It does~

Also, every ideology can coerce people, the Cold War proved this among other things and money even more so, should we ban money too?

Lets stop making excuses to hate each other. Its the first step we should take, no one has the right to ban any belief or we will all end up being hypocrites when we say we support freedom.

I think he was trying to agree with you tiffac.



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JWeinCom said:
"You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims. Doesn't work that way."

Uhhhhhh... when did I say every single muslim tried to force their religion on me?

Well everything was generalized on that sentence. "Others" So my example just went to you. My bad for the misunderstanding ^^;;;



padib said:
tiffac said:
JWeinCom said:

Yeah... I'm an atheist, and I think the world would be better without religion.  But, the reason I dislike religion is because it is used to coerce people into acting and thinking in certain ways.  Coercing people to act in certain ways through legal and military force isn't any better.  

You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims.  Doesn't work that way.

See theres' the problem, you generalize everyone. Has every single muslim forced their religion on to you? No!

If we want to win this war against extremicism, we have to stop thinking like extremist. The reason the terrorist are getting fresh recruits is because we have started marginalizing people for their beliefs and even more so over the internet, and worse of all, we think this kind of talk in cyberspace doesn't carry over in the real world too. It does~

Also, every ideology can coerce people, the Cold War proved this among other things and money even more so, should we ban money too?

Lets stop making excuses to hate each other. Its the first step we should take, no one has the right to ban any belief or we will all end up being hypocrites when we say we support freedom.

I think he was trying to agree with you tiffac.


He was? Oh!... :/

Sorry the Chicago Bulls is losing the the Orlando Magic right now. I got caught up in the moment xD



tiffac said:

I think he was. :/

Sorry the Chicago Bulls is losing the the Orlando Magic right now. I got caught up in the moment xD

lol



tiffac said:
JWeinCom said:
"You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims. Doesn't work that way."

Uhhhhhh... when did I say every single muslim tried to force their religion on me?

Well everything was generalized on that sentence. "Others" So my example just went to you. My bad for the misunderstanding ^^;;;

All I was trying to say was that it's hypocritical to complain about muslims (not every one) trying to force their beliefs on others, but to then accept when the Chinese government tries to force their beliefs on others.  



JWeinCom said:
tiffac said:
JWeinCom said:
"You can't act outraged when muslims try to force their beliefs on others, then accept it when others force their beliefs on muslims. Doesn't work that way."

Uhhhhhh... when did I say every single muslim tried to force their religion on me?

Well everything was generalized on that sentence. "Others" So my example just went to you. My bad for the misunderstanding ^^;;;

All I was trying to say was that it's hypocritical to complain about muslims (not every one) trying to force their beliefs on others, but to then accept when the Chinese government tries to force their beliefs on others.  

I know, I know my bad. This should teach me not to watch sports and post on serious discussions at the same time. It tends to misunderstanding something, especially when my team is losing. @_@