Sucks for Brazil... actually didn't even know Nintendo had a foothold there until I read the story of them pulling out. Knew they had some South American operations but always figured it was a vague continental type thing like Nintendo of Europe.
Sucks for Brazil... actually didn't even know Nintendo had a foothold there until I read the story of them pulling out. Knew they had some South American operations but always figured it was a vague continental type thing like Nintendo of Europe.
| NoirSon said: Sucks for Brazil... actually didn't even know Nintendo had a foothold there until I read the story of them pulling out. Knew they had some South American operations but always figured it was a vague continental type thing like Nintendo of Europe. |
The thing is that Nintendo does not have a real presence they don't have a Nintendo LATAM or something like that, they do it all through a "partner" called Videojuegos Latinoamerica which has small companies in each country (Colombia, Chile, Peru, and yes also Brasil), they have the control of everything (which games they sale, at what prices, how they promote, etc) and to be honest they suck as a company.
What happened here is not that Nintendo is leaving Brazil, is that Videojuegos Brasil (the satellite company of Videojuegos Latinoamerica for that country) is leaving the country because they are not making as much money with the Wii U and 3DS as they were making with the Wii and DS, so now if Nintendo wants to returns they will have to do it with a new partner (I really hope they do with a better one for the full region) or by themselves, which is unlikely because they will have to spend a good chunk of money to do it.
flagstaad said:
The thing is that Nintendo does not have a real presence they don't have a Nintendo LATAM or something like that, they do it all through a "partner" called Videojuegos Latinoamerica which has small companies in each country (Colombia, Chile, Peru, and yes also Brasil), they have the control of everything (which games they sale, at what prices, how they promote, etc) and to be honest they suck as a company. What happened here is not that Nintendo is leaving Brazil, is that Videojuegos Brasil (the satellite company of Videojuegos Latinoamerica for that country) is leaving the country because they are not making as much money with the Wii U and 3DS as they were making with the Wii and DS, so now if Nintendo wants to returns they will have to do it with a new partner (I really hope they do with a better one for the full region) or by themselves, which is unlikely because they will have to spend a good chunk of money to do it. |
You realize that even if Nintendo say the other company decides all that, it isn't true right??? Nintendo have everything set in the contract.

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| Munchies said: I'm fucked. :/ |
You're Brazilian? God, that sucks. :/
| DonFerrari said: You realize that even if Nintendo say the other company decides all that, it isn't true right??? Nintendo have everything set in the contract. |
Well, that is what the representative told us in the interview. He came to Colombia for SOFA (Salón del Ocio y la Fantasía), it was the first time that Nintendo came to an event officially after years of only sending Videojuegos Latinoamerica, we were able to interview him on and off-camera, the on camera interview was pretty standard, hyping the holiday season games, talking about the experience of coming for the first time to our country, and all that stuff.
The off-camera interview was very interesting, we told him that the game prices for the Wii U games are on average 5 U$ higher than those of the other consoles and he told us that the price is decided by the distributor, not them; we told them that the console itself was not much cheaper that those of the competition and again he told us that it is defined by the distributor; and finally we asked about the third party game availability and once more he told us that since the distributor is the one who knows the market, they make the choice.
He was legitimate concern about a few of the things we told him and he told us that he was going to check on them, but it seems the contract is outdated and could use a review, there is a good following here in the region (at least in the country) and it was shown during the event, where the Nintendo booth was just too small to meet the demand of the public and there were lines at all times.
I can tell you at least for sure that the social network and publicity for Nintendo Products is totally controlled in Colombia by Videojuegos Latinoamerica (with its local subsidiary), since the last facebook and twitter post is dated October 31st of 2014, Nintendo does not leave a social network without content for 3 months during the most busy and important season of the year. I also know for sure that they get the games for a certain cost and decide on the final price for the local consumer.
flagstaad said:
Well, that is what the representative told us in the interview. He came to Colombia for SOFA (Salón del Ocio y la Fantasía), it was the first time that Nintendo came to an event officially after years of only sending Videojuegos Latinoamerica, we were able to interview him on and off-camera, the on camera interview was pretty standard, hyping the holiday season games, talking about the experience of coming for the first time to our country, and all that stuff. The off-camera interview was very interesting, we told him that the game prices for the Wii U games are on average 5 U$ higher than those of the other consoles and he told us that the price is decided by the distributor, not them; we told them that the console itself was not much cheaper that those of the competition and again he told us that it is defined by the distributor; and finally we asked about the third party game availability and once more he told us that since the distributor is the one who knows the market, they make the choice. He was legitimate concern about a few of the things we told him and he told us that he was going to check on them, but it seems the contract is outdated and could use a review, there is a good following here in the region (at least in the country) and it was shown during the event, where the Nintendo booth was just too small to meet the demand of the public and there were lines at all times. I can tell you at least for sure that the social network and publicity for Nintendo Products is totally controlled in Colombia by Videojuegos Latinoamerica (with its local subsidiary), since the last facebook and twitter post is dated October 31st of 2014, Nintendo does not leave a social network without content for 3 months during the most busy and important season of the year. I also know for sure that they get the games for a certain cost and decide on the final price for the local consumer. |
I don't really think Nintendo would open any of their terms on interview or recognize they allowed or were awere of the problem.
I also doubt a company this old and with so many representants over the time would make a contract with carte blanché for them.
They were incompetent if allowed and lenient for not monitoring. In a big company the screw ups of subordinates are all responsibilities of CEO, so you are also responsible for subcontractors.
About whorehouses. That is completely bogus. A woman is free to sell sex and a man to buy, but any facilitator or intermediary is illegal (although common). There is a lot of single woman because a lot of them don't want commitment and much are skanks.

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
| DonFerrari said:
I also doubt a company this old and with so many representants over the time would make a contract with carte blanché for them. They were incompetent if allowed and lenient for not monitoring. In a big company the screw ups of subordinates are all responsibilities of CEO, so you are also responsible for subcontractors. |
We don't know the terms exactly, but promotion, price and games selected for the market are all distributor's choice, and I know it because the social network is hired by them (confirmed), the prices are set by them (also confirmed with stores) and games offered... I know some stores can order some specific titles if they want to (Falabella in my country has the best variety) but in general lines is also the distributor who offers them the games to sell (no amiibos available, no Captain Toad, for example).
I don't know how old is the contract, but Videojuegos Latinoamerica has always been its distributor for the region, since 2002 or something among those lines, they did a decent job during the Gamecube days in my country, we even got an official Nintendo Store in the capital (run by the distributor, not really Nintendo) and during the Wii days we saw a lot of bad choices and they were selling most the bad and casual games of the console. I think NoA gave them a lot of power and let them made a lot of choices (after all they were the experts of the market), but now that the Wii U is struggling Videojuegos Colombia don't know what to do and Nintendo needs to pull the leash if they can, otherwise they could be "leaving" other countries very soon.