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cuecolez said:
It was already hard to find games here at the right prices.

The taxes on videogames and software are two times the ones on their PC counterparts due to poor regulamentation.

Fuck this stupid government. :(


Regulamentarion should be made an official English word! It's amazing!



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The only thing Nintendo should do imo is let us have an eshop in which we can buy games in dollars with international credit cards. But with real accounts, not having to lie and use a fake canadian or american account.



Munchies said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Munchies said:
I'm fucked. :/


Can't you import?


I can't, for the same reason Nintendo is leaving. High taxes. I guess I'll need other means to buy my games. :/


I'm sorry to hear that. I was hoping maybe there was way around it. Hmmm, maybe you should move? I know I would. I mean, even if I loved my country, I'm not going to stick around if consoles get over a thousand dollars lol.



zumnupy10 said:
As a Brazilian, all I can say is this:

Although taxes around here are ridiculous. Nintendo's excuses for leaving our market are just as ridiculous. The same taxes are not stopping Microsoft and Sony from translating their games to our language (Portuguese) and selling their consoles cheaper than Nintendo ones in the official market.

Nintendo never really took the Brazilian and the rest of Latin American market seriously. Even in their best times in Brazil, they only ollowed third party companies to sell their products here instead of having their own operation. During the 90s for example, you could buy a Genesis/Mega Drive for significantly less than a Snes.


PS and Xbox platforms have a bigger hold in Brazil.  It's just that simple.  I did see quite a few Wii Us selling though, and some 3DS'.   But i'm guessing those guys bought their stuff from abroad or imported it, I didn't check.

Never checked for official stores for consoles since when I went into fnac and saw the price of the PS4 and nearly spit out my soda.

Also Wii U isn't getting FIFA anymore so might as well give up hope.  All is lost.



Aeolus451 said:
DonFerrari said:
Aeolus451 said:
Why are the taxes so high on imports there?


We have a left wing government with a lot of weeds sucking out resources... so their solution to everything is raise taxes...

If the national industry have difficults fighting imports in the auto bussiness let's raise the importation to 100% (never lower the taxes for the national ones, or demand that they cut some of their 50-100% overprice), and that same principle is applied to everything here.


Bussinesses and high taxes don't get along. Your explanation of your government reminds me of democrats here. haha

Well that is because PT and Democrats are almost the same, difference is we have a white old hag and you a fake black guy... both have one position in the discorse, but actions that don't match their speach...

Once the ex-president was told that in some countries the tax burden was around 10% and he answered "but with that the governement can't exist"... he never perceived that most of the educated population and industry would be a lot better if they were really smaller and used that 10% to invest in just the basic.... we collect over 40% of the GDP in tax but like 80% is used for wages of public service. They do almost nill investment.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:
Please don't try to defend Nintendo on this. Yes they do good games, the government sucks and tax are high. But the truth is that Nintendo don't care for Brazil at all and being almost twice the price of usa with minimun wage being like 1/3 they wouldn't sell good here when they fail in USA.

Nintendo cares so little about Brazil that I would say that the second most played system in brazilian history (losing to ps2) was Dynavision (famicon/nes kick-off). Since Nintendo didn't had the nes really selling here this company and others released a system that could read USA and japan nes cartridge or counterfeit ones (actually a HW lot better than any official nes). Mega Drive (genesis) with Tectoy was very competitive against snes from gradiente (Tectoy still manufactures genesis and master system here, Dynavision also make Dynacom)... Sony haven't officially released the ps1 to date (because of piracy (never saw an original disc in here besides a demo disc) but it likely outsold saturn and sn64 10:1 here.

They don't need to manufacture the console here they could license it as they done before. And you won't pay the import tax if you either stamp the discs here (and surely be good to translate/dub the games) or at least pack it here.

The real problem is that Nintendo can't have the same margins here that they have in other places. Their game on official stores being higher than competitors and 3rd parties is silly. They are just greed.

About their partner, please don't exempt Nintendo. They are responsible for the company they sign with. Everything they do here have ninty's approval or else they would be terminated. Do you think Nintendo that was able to control the whole market and policies during nes time aint able to oversee a subcontractor?

About logistic and distribution chain. Nintendo is on console markets for over 30 years so if they don't have a chain or trusted partners that is due to their own inneficience. Nintendo lost the strength it had during nes era continually because of their own incompetence, don't avert the guilty just to save the image of the company.

Are you really trying to suggest a company with 5,000 employees and 1 market segment should have the same channel distribution in small markets* as a company with 140,000 employess and hundreds of market segments?

* - for the console market, Brazil is still on the smaller side though it has indeed grown a lot over the past several years.

I'm suggesting they had 30 years to structurize themselves, they didn't... they didn't put distribution chain of themselves neither have made good partnership.

There is a lot of smaller company than nintendo with quite better distribution channel... my fathers company with 400 employees is able to sell to like 200 regions throughout the world... basically looking for corporate customer that would redistribute it.

They "are" in brazil for 30 years so excusing them for not having decent distribution here is ludicrous... and about your comparison it isn't like the gross of sony employees are logistic.... sony doesn't have a transportation company, they use other services so a local office with 2-3 guys to oversee could be enough.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

froster said:
This is one of the first steps to shutdown nintendos business. Unfortunaly Nintendo is massive financially stricken

What? That doesn't make much sense...



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Me!

AlfredoTurkey said:
Munchies said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Munchies said:
I'm fucked. :/


Can't you import?


I can't, for the same reason Nintendo is leaving. High taxes. I guess I'll need other means to buy my games. :/


I'm sorry to hear that. I was hoping maybe there was way around it. Hmmm, maybe you should move? I know I would. I mean, even if I loved my country, I'm not going to stick around if consoles get over a thousand dollars lol.


Thanks. </3 And things is... I don't love my country, lmao. I would gladly move out of here. :P Just waiting for an opportunity to go to America so I can freely buy my games without spending much money and being judged, lmao.



pbroy said:
Well that's sucks. Any female Brazilian gamers out there want to marry me and live in the US and play all the Nintendo games you want? Brazilian women are so hot

Heard a podcast once that said most of the women in Brazil are single because whore houses are legal so the men always go there and the women basically don't trust men.



cuecolez said:
To put it in perspective.

A Wii U around here costs R$ 1899. Something like $ 725.

And don't even get me started on the "official" PS4... it costs R$ 4000,00 - $ 1500.


That's £469.11p in uk ( for a Wii U ) £££ just crazy money, glad I dont live there!!